June and His Presence in Recruiting

[LHS81]

Demarcus Ayers must have been a no-show when June went to DeSoto. He doesn't attend DeSoto

[Mexmustang]

My own opinion is somewhat different. I feel that June is more than willing to make home visits and he does a good job when he does. But, his organization of the entire recruiting process has been a mess since he got here. Some coaches did, some didn't. Worse, I believe all the assistants make the same without regard to effort. Bert Hill seems to have reinvented himself, both as a coach and as a recruiter. He developed on his own and gets better at it every year, but there wasn't anyone pushing him or training him. As an old friend used to say, "Recruiting at SMU was a dog's breakfast". June's group had no real background in recruiting at Hawaii or the pros and June wasn't the administer/organizer over what we in Texas feel is football's second season--recruiting. He needs someone to put in charge of the process and allow him to administer consequences for insufficient effort.

My take is that he now has someone in Phillips in charge of the process that this is becoming better organized, and in turn gets June directly involved. If we can get a couple of young aggressive Texans on this staff and get rid of the old dead wood, we might get some real traction.

[Treadway21]

Mex,

Very good points on June and recruiting. Add in his NFL background and he has never really recruited the way we do in Texas.

My take is that he now has someone in Phillips in charge of the process that this is becoming better organized, and in turn gets June directly involved. If we can get a couple of young aggressive Texans on this staff and get rid of the old dead wood, we might get some real traction.

I wonder how much Brown's activity has pushed June. Brown is fearless in recruiting and I wonder if he and June talk if that might have influenced his thinking as well. Or is there pressure coming down from the powers that be?

[Higher Authority]

Apparently (per SuperPrep, via google) JJ and Phillips visited stud DeSoto QB/athlete DeMarcus Ayers (offers include Arizona State, Arkansas, Cal, Washington, Washington State, Tennessee, West Virginia), who says SMU now is in his top 3.

Considering Desoto played several playoff games at ford, the opportunity was there to see some of the best talent in the nation. The Desoto qb was fantastic but prob going to be a super fast slot if he can catch. Fans making fun of smu when i was there for the Allen-Desoto game what with very little police helping the parking situation and people out in traffice going nowhere for 1-2hours and missing the first half. A chance for SMU to showcase itself again and instead they blow it. Not only that, since many didn't know where to park, they parked in the surrounding neighborhoods where people had scheduled xmas parties that went bad because their guests couldn't park. What should be a top destination for student-athletes is sabotaged again.

Ayers plays for Lancaster. Hell of a lot of competition, but it would be awesome to see him play for the Ponies.

[Mexmustang]

Mex,

Very good points on June and recruiting. Add in his NFL background and he has never really recruited the way we do in Texas.

My take is that he now has someone in Phillips in charge of the process that this is becoming better organized, and in turn gets June directly involved. If we can get a couple of young aggressive Texans on this staff and get rid of the old dead wood, we might get some real traction.

I wonder how much Brown's activity has pushed June. Brown is fearless in recruiting and I wonder if he and June talk if that might have influenced his thinking as well. Or is there pressure coming down from the powers that be?

I would bet that Brown would have more influence on June, because he repects him--leading by example. I don't feel respect goes very far upstream...

[Treadway21]

They both seem to respect and support each others programs. Do you think that Brown has influenced June in this regard, or am I just projecting?

[birddogger]

It may be too little, too late for 2013 recruiting, but it is encouraging to see these signs of organization and effort. Reason for optimism that perhaps 2014 will be different???

[Cougar King]

We'll put Ayers to good use.

[SMU 86]

Mex,

Very good points on June and recruiting. Add in his NFL background and he has never really recruited the way we do in Texas.

My take is that he now has someone in Phillips in charge of the process that this is becoming better organized, and in turn gets June directly involved. If we can get a couple of young aggressive Texans on this staff and get rid of the old dead wood, we might get some real traction.

I wonder how much Brown's activity has pushed June. Brown is fearless in recruiting and I wonder if he and June talk if that might have influenced his thinking as well. Or is there pressure coming down from the powers that be?

Someone has lit a fire under June. Whether it was Brown or Hart that did it I am glad to see it. It believe it will pay off for the 2014 class if we can get some good players.

[Hoofprint]

I can't wait for Spring ball. I want to see Traylon Shead in person.

[GiddyUp]

My own opinion is somewhat different. I feel that June is more than willing to make home visits and he does a good job when he does. But, his organization of the entire recruiting process has been a mess since he got here. Some coaches did, some didn't. Worse, I believe all the assistants make the same without regard to effort. Bert Hill seems to have reinvented himself, both as a coach and as a recruiter. He developed on his own and gets better at it every year, but there wasn't anyone pushing him or training him. As an old friend used to say, "Recruiting at SMU was a dog's breakfast". June's group had no real background in recruiting at Hawaii or the pros and June wasn't the administer/organizer over what we in Texas feel is football's second season--recruiting. He needs someone to put in charge of the process and allow him to administer consequences for insufficient effort.

My take is that he now has someone in Phillips in charge of the process that this is becoming better organized, and in turn gets June directly involved. If we can get a couple of young aggressive Texans on this staff and get rid of the old dead wood, we might get some real traction.

I thought Klemm was doing this when he was here and couldnt get the deadweights to recruit and cover their territories (ie Surfer dude) etc..

Regardless, dont really care just glad there is evidence of better efforts

[ponyscott]

I thought Klemm was doing this when he was here and couldnt get the deadweights to recruit and cover their territories (ie Surfer dude) etc..

Regardless, dont really care just glad there is evidence of better efforts[/quote]


JJ gave Klemm the title but not the authority and it may have had something to do with the fact that Klem was young and the other ( older?) coaches wouldn't listen to Klemm because of that in-experience. Maybe Phillips has the title AND the authority that may actually be respected because of his real exerience, and June this time, is reacting with real action on higher rated recruits. LB just HAS to have been an influence on June.
I look forward to the results of the efforts of 2014.

[Mexmustang]

"I thought Klemm was doing this when he was here and couldnt get the deadweights to recruit and cover their territories (ie Surfer dude) etc.."

The real problem with Klemm was that he was the "rookie" on the staff. Even if he had an official title, Head of Recruiting, the rest of the staff would have ignored him.

Klemm unfortunately ran off at the mouth (twitter, texts and emails) about their shortcomings, something no football staff member is allowed to do without consequences. The image that he had a big signing bonus (although he was second round), and received alot of press from the recruiting services only made matters worse.

Phillips is a different story. He is experienced and has June's ear. He also has the reponsibility. Klemm was great but here at the wrong time--too early in his career.

[couch 'em]

Jones isn't an idiot and neither are his ancient assistants, unless senility is setting in which is possible.

They know what is required, they just don't want to do it. Either they just won't, and JJ is OK with that, or they were told by JJ they wouldn't have to.

Either way we deserve better. We dont deserve a coach and staff of Larry Brown's caliber but we do deserve one that works as hard. This is D1-A football, the elite of college football, and the second highest tier of all football worldwide.
Compare that to your profession. JJ is being paid elite salary in an elite role in football coaching. If you were in an elite role with an elite salary in your profession, how long would you survive if the same questions about JJ and staff were being asked about you and your staff?

[Stallion]

Negligence or
Laziness or
Incompetence or
Senility

Pick all that apply. Good for Klemm who held Title of Recruiting Coordinator for getting in these Coaches' face. Better question-Why weren't they fired? I still don't understand why at least 2 from last year are still here . Then we replace Klemm with yet another guy who is invisible in recruiting. Meanwhile the "unprofessional" coach is perhaps leading UCLA to a Top 5 recruiting class-(stay tooned UCLA still is favored for 4 more 4+ stars and has shot at about 6)