JasonB wrote:Those calling for changes are surely going to get it...
- addition of the zone read this year
- addition of a tight end scheme this year
- actively recruiting a tight end this year
- recruiting a dual threat qb next year
I think the combo of Garrett running well and the Phillips influence from Houston is going to push us to a hybrid of the spread and the run and shoot. There are obvious changes in philosophy happening right now...
How do you know for sure that this is happening?
I am not sure of anything... just saying that the evidence supports the transition. The zone read certainly isn't going anywhere after its success this year. And recruiting a TE as well as a mobile QB certainly points to a change in attitude.
I think there is some validity to some of the other points made above. Today's defenses have a lot more folks playing who are capable of pass coverage. So, you can't just send a bunch of halfway decent receivers out on patterns and know that someone is getting open. Your receivers actually have to be good because of the depth teams have in the secondary, and the way defense is played.
The R&S is always an offense where the pass is used to create running opportunities. With today's defenses, that isn't always effective. So, you have to build an offense that can go run first if it needs to, based on the look of the defense. Before the change with the zone read, I think there were like 3 possible run plays that we could do. You can't go run first with only three running options. Adding the zone read allows you to be read first if you need to be, especially if you have depth at RB, which we do.
Myrdel is right in that he's saying JJ would slow the offense down even without the trot. Its not the trot, its JJ's lack of will to to hurry up. Even if he signaled in, he'd go slowly. It's a mindset. He has a hurry up offense already and chooses not to run it unless he has to. Even if he signaled in, I think he'd go slowly.
Yes, if he wanted to go fast, then he'd have to scrap the trot but that would represent a shift in his paradigm. Let's hope his paradigm in offense shifts totally. There are some signs he MMIGHT change but I'll believe it only when I see it. If we had a productive offense, this team would have been somewhat successful against BCS teams. Without a productive offense, we have no chance whatsoever to compete - hopefully he sees it.
Alaric wrote:Myrdel is right in that he's saying JJ would slow the offense down even without the trot. Its not the trot, its JJ's lack of will to to hurry up. Even if he signaled in, he'd go slowly. It's a mindset. He has a hurry up offense already and chooses not to run it unless he has to. Even if he signaled in, I think he'd go slowly.
Yes, if he wanted to go fast, then he'd have to scrap the trot but that would represent a shift in his paradigm. Let's hope his paradigm in offense shifts totally. There are some signs he MMIGHT change but I'll believe it only when I see it. If we had a productive offense, this team would have been somewhat successful against BCS teams. Without a productive offense, we have no chance whatsoever to compete - hopefully he sees it.
I don't want June Jones to speed THIS offense up any at all. All it would do is get us off the field faster, and wear our defense out faster. I am a major June critic but I suspect he'd be moving faster if we were executing better.
ponyboy wrote:Only those teams who played in and won bowl games are candidates to laugh at us doing the sideline trot. It's a small population of teams.
I'm not sure what winning our bowl game has to do with anything. We finished 7-6. Plenty of teams accomplished that, and almost all against more difficult competition.
JasonB wrote:Those calling for changes are surely going to get it...
- addition of the zone read this year
- addition of a tight end scheme this year
- actively recruiting a tight end this year
- recruiting a dual threat qb next year
I think the combo of Garrett running well and the Phillips influence from Houston is going to push us to a hybrid of the spread and the run and shoot. There are obvious changes in philosophy happening right now...
How do you know for sure that this is happening?
I am not sure of anything... just saying that the evidence supports the transition. The zone read certainly isn't going anywhere after its success this year. And recruiting a TE as well as a mobile QB certainly points to a change in attitude.
I think there is some validity to some of the other points made above. Today's defenses have a lot more folks playing who are capable of pass coverage. So, you can't just send a bunch of halfway decent receivers out on patterns and know that someone is getting open. Your receivers actually have to be good because of the depth teams have in the secondary, and the way defense is played.
The R&S is always an offense where the pass is used to create running opportunities. With today's defenses, that isn't always effective. So, you have to build an offense that can go run first if it needs to, based on the look of the defense. Before the change with the zone read, I think there were like 3 possible run plays that we could do. You can't go run first with only three running options. Adding the zone read allows you to be read first if you need to be, especially if you have depth at RB, which we do.
Just saying that you presented it as a factual statement as opposed to something you think might happen.
"We will play man to man and we will pick you up at the airport." - Larry Brown
SMU 86 wrote:
How do you know for sure that this is happening?
I am not sure of anything... just saying that the evidence supports the transition. The zone read certainly isn't going anywhere after its success this year. And recruiting a TE as well as a mobile QB certainly points to a change in attitude.
I think there is some validity to some of the other points made above. Today's defenses have a lot more folks playing who are capable of pass coverage. So, you can't just send a bunch of halfway decent receivers out on patterns and know that someone is getting open. Your receivers actually have to be good because of the depth teams have in the secondary, and the way defense is played.
The R&S is always an offense where the pass is used to create running opportunities. With today's defenses, that isn't always effective. So, you have to build an offense that can go run first if it needs to, based on the look of the defense. Before the change with the zone read, I think there were like 3 possible run plays that we could do. You can't go run first with only three running options. Adding the zone read allows you to be read first if you need to be, especially if you have depth at RB, which we do.
Just saying that you presented it as a factual statement as opposed to something you think might happen.
His initial post had the phrase "I just think...", I think you are reading too much into if you thought it was presented as factual. Note, that means it is just my opinion.
JasonB wrote:Those calling for changes are surely going to get it...
- addition of the zone read this year
- addition of a tight end scheme this year
- actively recruiting a tight end this year
- recruiting a dual threat qb next year
I think the combo of Garrett running well and the Phillips influence from Houston is going to push us to a hybrid of the spread and the run and shoot. There are obvious changes in philosophy happening right now...
The "I think" does not seem to get get past the "surely going to get it" and "changes in philosophy happening right now.." statement. It came across as somewhat authoritative to me. By the way, I hope June does change.
"We will play man to man and we will pick you up at the airport." - Larry Brown
