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Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:53 pm
by lwjr
RGV Pony wrote:Stallion wrote:This Year we're going to need 25% and contractual obligation BEFORE we cancel the games you want to see and add Montana St
So tell me this, Stallion and other attorneys.
When the "send in your $" email went out, didn't it say 'our home games include...?'
There's the representation.
Season tix holders relied on same , sent in $
Representation turns out to be false.
I guess some form of damages were incurred
I'm no attorney..but doesnt that sound like the f word ?
If it holds true it sounds like typical SMU
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:36 pm
by ponypatrick
Grant Carter wrote:Lebanese4Life wrote:Fire Jones now. His 6th year and we're still tryin to dodge the big dawgs. June is content with 6-6 seasons with a bowl game in Hawaii every year. PATHETIC!
Do we know for sure that it was smu's decision?
Baylor wanted out too. They had nothing to gain with a win and a whole lot to lose if we somehow snuck up on them.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:41 pm
by ALEX LIFESON
GiddyUp wrote:June boy ain't gonna play 4 tough OOC games...much rather play Ark State, NMState, ULL, or someone regional. Montana State could easily beat us... they are a good team.
I went to that game in 2006?...where Arkansas St blew us out in Jonesboro. Just another long depressing trip. You're right about Montana St., they will be tough and see SMU as their Super Bowl.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:51 am
by Mustangsabu
While I think it stinks to lose a high profile home game, I think losing the ATM game was Plan A but the folks in College Station didn't play ball. If Baylor want out, they'll get out of it. SMU does not have the stature to dictate how these things go.
I will say that I voiced my displeasure to the athletic dept about the misleading "same price for season tix" and that this rumored change will effect the attractiveness of our home slate but personally I am ok with one game in OOC being 1AA, and at least it is an exciting 1AA team by the sounds of it and not jist SHSU or SFA again.
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Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:22 am
by PSCA
Pure speculation on my part … but I would think that if JJ was looking to ease the OCS, it would be A&M and not Baylor. We have a better chance of being competitive with Baylor next season, and it’s a home game that should result in a good home crowd and recruiting atmosphere. Unfortunately, I believe A&M will be another hard lesson … plus on the road in front 85,000+. A&M will be just as tough to deal with next season … FOR EVERYONE.
I’m more inclined to think Baylor had more input on the change then SMU, I’m sure we were willing to accommodate also. JJ did say we need to lighten the OCS to build "MO" and success … every program does it … and replacing one game is not tucking your tail. Baylor/A&M, TT, TCU and M-State is hardly a cup cake OCS, and with our BE sch, next year is VERY legite. I believe TCU opened with Grambling State last year.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:37 am
by sbsmith
Mustangsabu wrote:While I think it stinks to lose a high profile home game, I think losing the ATM game was Plan A but the folks in College Station didn't play ball. If Baylor want out, they'll get out of it. SMU does not have the stature to dictate how these things go.
I will say that I voiced my displeasure to the athletic dept about the misleading "same price for season tix" and that this rumored change will effect the attractiveness of our home slate but personally I am ok with one game in OOC being 1AA, and at least it is an exciting 1AA team by the sounds of it and not jist SHSU or SFA again.
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SHSU made the 1-AA title game the last 2 years and is only 2 and half hours away. It would make a lot more sense to play them than to play some team from 1500 miles away.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:41 am
by lwjr
sbsmith wrote:Mustangsabu wrote:While I think it stinks to lose a high profile home game, I think losing the ATM game was Plan A but the folks in College Station didn't play ball. If Baylor want out, they'll get out of it. SMU does not have the stature to dictate how these things go.
I will say that I voiced my displeasure to the athletic dept about the misleading "same price for season tix" and that this rumored change will effect the attractiveness of our home slate but personally I am ok with one game in OOC being 1AA, and at least it is an exciting 1AA team by the sounds of it and not jist SHSU or SFA again.
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SHSU made the 1-AA title game the last 2 years and is only 2 and half hours away. It would make a lot more sense to play them than to play some team from 1500 miles away.
I think last years SHSU team might have beat SMU.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:52 am
by sbsmith
lwjr wrote:sbsmith wrote:Mustangsabu wrote:While I think it stinks to lose a high profile home game, I think losing the ATM game was Plan A but the folks in College Station didn't play ball. If Baylor want out, they'll get out of it. SMU does not have the stature to dictate how these things go.
I will say that I voiced my displeasure to the athletic dept about the misleading "same price for season tix" and that this rumored change will effect the attractiveness of our home slate but personally I am ok with one game in OOC being 1AA, and at least it is an exciting 1AA team by the sounds of it and not jist SHSU or SFA again.
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SHSU made the 1-AA title game the last 2 years and is only 2 and half hours away. It would make a lot more sense to play them than to play some team from 1500 miles away.
I think last years SHSU team might have beat SMU.
I agree, they put up a much better fight against Baylor and A&M than we did.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:15 pm
by ponyboy
We were six spots ahead of SHSU in final 2012 Sagarin.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:26 pm
by No Quarter
Say we play Montana State and win. Will we hold a parade if we're the state champ of Montana? On the other hand, it is perhaps more likely to be reported on the East Coast if we loose.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:53 pm
by PonySnob
No Quarter wrote:Say we play Montana State and win. Will we hold a parade if we're the state champ of Montana? On the other hand, it is perhaps more likely to be reported on the East Coast if we loose.
Hopefully JJ won't have it circled as a loss...........
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:15 pm
by Mustangsabu
lwjr wrote:sbsmith wrote:Mustangsabu wrote:While I think it stinks to lose a high profile home game, I think losing the ATM game was Plan A but the folks in College Station didn't play ball. If Baylor want out, they'll get out of it. SMU does not have the stature to dictate how these things go.
I will say that I voiced my displeasure to the athletic dept about the misleading "same price for season tix" and that this rumored change will effect the attractiveness of our home slate but personally I am ok with one game in OOC being 1AA, and at least it is an exciting 1AA team by the sounds of it and not jist SHSU or SFA again.
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SHSU made the 1-AA title game the last 2 years and is only 2 and half hours away. It would make a lot more sense to play them than to play some team from 1500 miles away.
I think last years SHSU team might have beat SMU.
I am not saying that Montana St. is a better team, just that it is nice to have a change. I have no problem with this.
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Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:19 pm
by BaylorHistory
Sad news. I really hope SMU is still the opening game at new Baylor Stadium in 2014.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:46 pm
by leopold
RGV Pony wrote:Stallion wrote:This Year we're going to need 25% and contractual obligation BEFORE we cancel the games you want to see and add Montana St
So tell me this, Stallion and other attorneys.
When the "send in your $" email went out, didn't it say 'our home games include...?'
There's the representation.
Season tix holders relied on same , sent in $
Representation turns out to be false.
I guess some form of damages were incurred
I'm no attorney..but doesnt that sound like the f word ?
Sounds like Bait and switch to me.
FWIW, TCU has played Grambling and Tennessee Tech over the past few years, so they have their patsies, too.
Hooked up with an MI officer that went to MSU. Good girl, good officer.
Hope we kill em if we play em, though.
Re: SMU vs. Montana State
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:56 pm
by Stallion
and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close. TCU has been ADDING last minute national spotlight games in recent years like Clemson, BYU, Oregon St and LSU