Fan Reflection, Inclusive Environment=Filling Stadium

[StallionsModelT]

Yeah that could be good. I would think Big 10 and PAC 12 bottom feeders might wanna play here too.

[SMUSIC 07]

I completely agree with not heckling opposing fans just for being there. But if they start spewing garbage (as Tech fans are wont to do), I say have at it. Just be clean about it.

I lit into an entire row for yelling at Shead to get up thinking he was trying to stall Tech. We were obviously on offense at the time, but the debate as to whether or not the aptitude for all things involving an intelligent thought is generally vacant from a Tech fan belongs in another forum.

Needless to say, I had a blast with this particular row of Sand Aggies.

[mustangxc]

I think we could still convince Arkansas and others to play us at Ford. It's just a matter of presenting them with a convincing argument. It they play us at Ford it is a home game for us and a road game for them so they do not lose any home games.

[StallionsModelT]

I just don't want to play Tech anymore. Literally the worst fans of any school in America.

[JoeKidd]

Well pf board seems pretty squarely behind not heckling other teams fans so I will concede I lost the point/argument. I still do not believe that there should ever be opponents fans in "our" sections, whether invited or not by season ticket holders. Would everyone feel the same if it were TCU fans that an SMU season ticket holder sold their tickets to? I treat all other teams like they are TCU.

[JoeKidd]

I just don't want to play Tech anymore. Literally the worst fans of any school in America.

I have seen much worse fans that Tech honestly. Fresno St. comes to mind immediately and there were some pretty aggressive/annoying ones from Army as well.

[mustangxc]

I always treat TCU fans well. At the end of the day we are all human and once the game is over we need to coexist peacefully. Plus, some of these fans come cheer us on when we face other opponents.

[East Coast Mustang]

I think we could still convince Arkansas and others to play us at Ford. It's just a matter of presenting them with a convincing argument. It they play us at Ford it is a home game for us and a road game for them so they do not lose any home games.

Well, they're doing a home and home with TCU and playing A&M at Jerryworld from 2014-2024, so that may be all the DFW exposure they need. I'd certainly be open to playing them home and home though

[mrydel]

I think we could still convince Arkansas and others to play us at Ford. It's just a matter of presenting them with a convincing argument. It they play us at Ford it is a home game for us and a road game for them so they do not lose any home games.

Arkansas will never play us at Ford. They have too many UA fans in Dallas. It would only lose them money and make the fan base mad.

[soccermom]

I just don't want to play Tech anymore. Literally the worst fans of any school in America.

I agree. As I've said before, even the 8-9 year old tt girl next to me booed. I can kind of understand booing a call for the game but when "adults" and the said girl booed the mini Mustang group, I don't get it. Booing at injured players, too....just a bunch of rude people.

[SMUer]

Well pf board seems pretty squarely behind not heckling other teams fans so I will concede I lost the point/argument. I still do not believe that there should ever be opponents fans in "our" sections, whether invited or not by season ticket holders. Would everyone feel the same if it were TCU fans that an SMU season ticket holder sold their tickets to? I treat all other teams like they are TCU.

I tried to "nicely" heckle Texas A&M fans who were sitting on our side last year but it went badly. I wanted to make them feel uncomfortable about sitting on the home side, without being crude or rude. Texas A&M fans didn't like it and it made SMU fans around me uncomfortable. I was using really tame stuff like "have fun in the SEC", "hope it doesn't take you 2Q to score in the SEC", "LSU is going to eat this team alive", or "See that guy Margus, First Down Draft Pick" and such. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, but no one enjoyed it. One A&M lady told me I was the most disrespectful fan she had ever met, to which I said "don't travel to Baton Rouge...", she also lied and told me she was a season-ticket holder and attended every SMU game...she isn't, I actually know the season ticket holders who gave her their seats. The moral of the story is: SMU fans don't have the fervor or the stomach for heckling or any sort...and that certainly is the polite thing. If opposing fans come sit in your section, just smile and wish them a good game. If they throw tortillas at your head, laugh. If they throw their "guns" in your face or laugh when your players get injured, just frown and shake your head disapprovingly.

[PonySnob]

I tried to "nicely" heckle Texas A&M fans who were sitting on our side last year but it went badly. I wanted to make them feel uncomfortable about sitting on the home side, without being crude or rude. Texas A&M fans didn't like it and it made SMU fans around me uncomfortable. I was using really tame stuff like "have fun in the SEC", "hope it doesn't take you 2Q to score in the SEC", "LSU is going to eat this team alive", or "See that guy Margus, First Down Draft Pick" and such. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, but no one enjoyed it. One A&M lady told me I was the most disrespectful fan she had ever met, to which I said "don't travel to Baton Rouge...", she also lied and told me she was a season-ticket holder and attended every SMU game...she isn't, I actually know the season ticket holders who gave her their seats. The moral of the story is: SMU fans don't have the fervor or the stomach for heckling or any sort...and that certainly is the polite thing. If opposing fans come sit in your section, just smile and wish them a good game. If they throw tortillas at your head, laugh. If they throw their "guns" in your face or laugh when your players get injured, just frown and shake your head disapprovingly.

Interesting that nothing you heckled them about was reality......although LSU did beat the Aggies by 5.

[SMUer]

Yeah, I'm an anti-predictor it seems. But you've got to agree, watching Aggie play us in the first half, you were thinking about how bad the SEC would treat the Aggies too.

[Grant Carter]

Well pf board seems pretty squarely behind not heckling other teams fans so I will concede I lost the point/argument. I still do not believe that there should ever be opponents fans in "our" sections, whether invited or not by season ticket holders. Would everyone feel the same if it were TCU fans that an SMU season ticket holder sold their tickets to? I treat all other teams like they are TCU.

I tried to "nicely" heckle Texas A&M fans who were sitting on our side last year but it went badly. I wanted to make them feel uncomfortable about sitting on the home side, without being crude or rude. Texas A&M fans didn't like it and it made SMU fans around me uncomfortable. I was using really tame stuff like "have fun in the SEC", "hope it doesn't take you 2Q to score in the SEC", "LSU is going to eat this team alive", or "See that guy Margus, First Down Draft Pick" and such. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, but no one enjoyed it. One A&M lady told me I was the most disrespectful fan she had ever met, to which I said "don't travel to Baton Rouge...", she also lied and told me she was a season-ticket holder and attended every SMU game...she isn't, I actually know the season ticket holders who gave her their seats. The moral of the story is: SMU fans don't have the fervor or the stomach for heckling or any sort...and that certainly is the polite thing. If opposing fans come sit in your section, just smile and wish them a good game. If they throw tortillas at your head, laugh. If they throw their "guns" in your face or laugh when your players get injured, just frown and shake your head disapprovingly.

Probably if anything you had said had been funny or creative then people might have enjoyed it. Based on the content you listed they might have just been bored by you.


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[JoeKidd]

Well pf board seems pretty squarely behind not heckling other teams fans so I will concede I lost the point/argument. I still do not believe that there should ever be opponents fans in "our" sections, whether invited or not by season ticket holders. Would everyone feel the same if it were TCU fans that an SMU season ticket holder sold their tickets to? I treat all other teams like they are TCU.

I tried to "nicely" heckle Texas A&M fans who were sitting on our side last year but it went badly. I wanted to make them feel uncomfortable about sitting on the home side, without being crude or rude. Texas A&M fans didn't like it and it made SMU fans around me uncomfortable. I was using really tame stuff like "have fun in the SEC", "hope it doesn't take you 2Q to score in the SEC", "LSU is going to eat this team alive", or "See that guy Margus, First Down Draft Pick" and such. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, but no one enjoyed it. One A&M lady told me I was the most disrespectful fan she had ever met, to which I said "don't travel to Baton Rouge...", she also lied and told me she was a season-ticket holder and attended every SMU game...she isn't, I actually know the season ticket holders who gave her their seats. The moral of the story is: SMU fans don't have the fervor or the stomach for heckling or any sort...and that certainly is the polite thing. If opposing fans come sit in your section, just smile and wish them a good game. If they throw tortillas at your head, laugh. If they throw their "guns" in your face or laugh when your players get injured, just frown and shake your head disapprovingly.

Yep, I think that's the moral to the story and really my original point (that was proven by how everyone jumped on me like a duck on a june bug for daring to heckle) and that is the vast, vast majority of SMU fans are lilly-white, soft and are only comfortable around their own kind, which does not make it an inclusive environment that people from the rest of the greater Dallas community that might want to have some drinks and be a rowdy football game can partake in.

Honestly the crowd I saw at the AAC for the Barnum & Bailey Circus was rowdier than our fans against Tech. I have witnessed this for a long-time now and am just about resigned to the fact.