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Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:42 am
by East Coast Mustang
CenTXpony wrote:ECM you should make a top 5 Irrational Power Ranking poll.
Too much hassle- the body of work I would have to peruse through would consume hundreds of man hours.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:50 am
by redpony
ECM- you should also do it with a 'ponyboy' style graph with a comparison to other schools irrational posters. :lol:

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:02 pm
by ponyboy
ouch

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:04 pm
by PSCA
SMUer, I’m certainly not going rebut your personal experience and views on crowd size and noise as a motivator for players. It obviously was not for you. I might suggest you may be in the minority in that view. I too played college at a high level in a big school, and a big loud crowd jacked me up. It’s the same as:

1) Some pre-game locker rooms are jamming loud adrenaline pumping music
2) Why most guys listen to music before a game on their headsets …. Normally not Beethoven.
3) Pre-game intro’s have a pump the volume aspect o them
4) Most weight training gyms have loud music
5) Pre game festivities for fans are an adrenaline rush
6) Motivational speakers tend to be louder an enthusiastic
7) Etc.

All this helps you grab another gear; it is human nature and not a reflection that a team or player lacks desire. Heck, as a player I did not care if we were home or away, a loud rowdy crowd got me going even more. When we were at A&M, I wanted to get my ankles tapped I was so juiced. To state this, is not blaming losses or poor play on the fans. However, it’s recognizing one more intangible you can put in your bag as you head off to war that will be a plus. Every sport is relative. What is a big crowd or expected/accepted crowd in one sport is not the same in another.

Joyner is correct to say we believe in ourselves and the coaches, and that’s what matters most. They are putting in the time, blood, sweet, tears, and injuries together and going to battle together. Fans as we all too well know are fickle. Love you today and hate you tomorrow. GG is a prime example of that. Many giving him praise, and love today wanted his head and him gone last year. Yes he is much better this year … that’s called development, system and player understanding … but few wanted to hear that, or had the patients for that last year. Back to my point. They should not be playing for the fans; they should be playing for each other. Fan support is a by-product of this. IMO.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:38 pm
by mrydel
Listen to Franz Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody #2. That will get the blood stirring. Any of you that ever watched Bugs Bunny cartoons heard it all the time.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:53 pm
by ponyte
mrydel wrote:Listen to Franz Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody #2. That will get the blood stirring. Any of you that ever watched Bugs Bunny cartoons heard it all the time.

And you can Cha Cha to it as well!

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:57 pm
by PlanoStang
The sound of Peruna, and Deguello...cha cha cha :!:

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:22 pm
by mrydel
ponyte wrote:
mrydel wrote:Listen to Franz Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody #2. That will get the blood stirring. Any of you that ever watched Bugs Bunny cartoons heard it all the time.

And you can Cha Cha to it as well!
Not for long.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:40 pm
by SMUer
Grant Carter wrote:
malonish wrote:I love what Red and Blue Army has done. I have a scarf and if it were ever a cold day I'd wear it more often. It's a good scarf just, ya know... Texas.
I do too, I am just surprised to hear that the founder thinks crowd noise does not influence the game. Especially since this is the first ever post on their blog:

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It's copying a WWII propaganda poster which modifying was popular at the time. The obvious ramification of course is that for the rest of my life I'm forced to believe that I am directly responsible for wins and losses. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I acknowledge that it can influence an offense trying to hear a snap-count but the idea being spread on the thread was that our players were somehow strong-minded in that they didn't need a crowd to play hard. IMO every athlete should play hard all the time crowd or no crowd. It's never affected my approach or execution in a game, ever.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:01 pm
by mrydel
Think of it this way. Would you rather have sex alone or have someone there with you for help and support?

Of course you should be able to perform regardless of the the size of the crowd, but let me assure you that a large crowd yelling for you will pump adrenaline and help you to perform better than without. Or in some cases it could cause stage fright and cause one to perform worse, but I will take the crowd on my side any day. You can say you are going to give your all and you can do so but with a full stadium cheering for you your performance more often than not will improve.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:05 pm
by malonish
mrydel wrote:Think of it this way. Would you rather have sex alone or have someone there with you for help and support?

Of course you should be able to perform regardless of the the size of the crowd, but let me assure you that a large crowd yelling for you will pump adrenaline and help you to perform better than without. Or in some cases it could cause stage fright and cause one to perform worse, but I will take the crowd on my side any day. You can say you are going to give your all and you can do so but with a full stadium cheering for you your performance more often than not will improve.
So what you're saying is you would "perform the halftime show" next time in front of everyone? :wink:

C'mon Mrydel it's a family show. :mrgreen:

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:07 pm
by SMUer
PSCA - Everyone has pre-game rituals...I know that: Metallica, Red Bull...I used to bring honey packets and eat them pre-game and at half-time because I thought it gave me a little extra quickness...but in the game, I was usually so "in the zone" that a gun could have gone off on the sideline and I wouldn't have noticed it. Perhaps my experience if different because I was always active in games whereas in football you spend a lot of time on the sidelines. Maybe you ponder the crowd more and it bums you out. Personally, I'd be watching the game and motivating players instead of counting faces but maybe it's different. I'd like to think having internally motivated guys is a given.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:30 pm
by Grant Carter
SMUer wrote:PSCA - Everyone has pre-game rituals...I know that: Metallica, Red Bull...I used to bring honey packets and eat them pre-game and at half-time because I thought it gave me a little extra quickness...but in the game, I was usually so "in the zone" that a gun could have gone off on the sideline and I wouldn't have noticed it. Perhaps my experience if different because I was always active in games whereas in football you spend a lot of time on the sidelines. Maybe you ponder the crowd more and it bums you out. Personally, I'd be watching the game and motivating players instead of counting faces but maybe it's different. I'd like to think having internally motivated guys is a given.
How would you be motivating the guys who were playing while you stood on the sidelines? Cheering for them maybe?


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Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:37 pm
by SMUer
Encouraging guys also standing on the sideline...presumably guys in the game have more things to do and say to each other than whatever the hell I'm yelling...Mr. Hypercritical.

Re: I love Rambo

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:39 pm
by BigT3x
I'm always amazed by those on here who always underestimate our players. They aren't in elementary school. They aren't delicate little flowers. A few critical posts online aren't going to weigh so heavily on their minds that they forget how to play football.

Maybe it's an inflated ego thing for the posters on here? Newsflash: What you write on this website isn't going to influence the team's performance.