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Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:49 pm
by Rebel10
HawkinTexas wrote:
CoxMustangFan wrote:
HawkinTexas wrote:Cliff Alexander has reportedly signed his LOI to Kansas this morning. Kansas will also be pushing hard for Turner and supposedly for Rashad Vaughan too. As far as open scholarships, we have 1 certain opening because Tarik Black is in his final year of eligibility. A second is nearly 100% certain because Andrew Wiggins will most definitely be going pro after this year.

After that, we have a couple of uncertainties. Joel Embiid has been talked about as a potential lottery pick next year despite the fact that he has only been playing for a couple of years. If he goes pro, he will be drafted on the basis of his potential. Wayne Selden and Perry Ellis could both potentially go to the pros after this year, but much less certain. If I had to predict what will happen, I would say that Wiggins and Embiid will go pro while Selden and Ellis will stay for one more year. That would leave Kansas with 3 open scholarships. There is always the potential for transfers too, but I think coach Self has a good handle on which players want to move to the NBA next year and which ones will be staying. He certainly will have that ironed out in the spring semester when the season is winding down and we're getting the late commits/signings.
He may have sent in his LOI at 8:00 this morning, but there are still legit concerns he never plays a minute at KU.

It's not nearly 100% Wiggins is gone, it's 100%. Injury or bad season will have zero impact.

Embiid is nearly 100% gone and Frankamp is an OAD (as in one year at KU and the other three at Commuter U). That's four without factoring in any others.
Whether any player in all of basketball plays next year or not is questionable. Alexander has signed his LOI, so he is fully committed to KU. Whether he meets all eligibility requirements when the time comes is an open question, but there is a risk in that for any player.

I assume that Wiggins will be gone and every other KU fan assumes that Wiggins will be gone. I don't think anybody is thinking there might be a chance that he stays for another year, but very little in the world is a 100% certainty. I would rate the chances of Wiggins leaving for the NBA as close to 100% as possible, but you never know what circumstances might come up.

Embiid may or may not be OAD. There is a very good chance that he will leave for the pros, but he did not grow up in the United States, so he has much different cultural influences. Again, I would think that he will go to the NBA, but that is far from 100% certain.

How in the hell can you say that Frankamp is going to commuter U? That is ridiculous. He is an extremely good 3-point shooter. He won the 3-point shooting contest at the Under Armor competition and I believe he set a record score. Not that any of that matters, but a shooter like that is valuable. Frankamp is also from Kansas and grew up as a KU fan. His hopes and dreams were to play for KU. The chances of Frankamp leaving Kansas are remote at best.
I think CMF might be saying that Alexander is a higher than normal risk of getting past the NCAA clearinghouse due to grade issues.

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:36 pm
by HawkinTexas
Rebel10 wrote:
I think CMF might be saying that Alexander is a higher than normal risk of getting past the NCAA clearinghouse due to grade issues.

Yeah, I have heard a couple things like this, but I have no clue whether it is true or not. My first post in this thread was intended just to state what the scholarship situation is/will be at KU and how that might impact the recruitment of Myles Turner. We should have the room for him if he decides he wants to pick Kansas.

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:02 pm
by CoxMustangFan
HawkinTexas wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:
I think CMF might be saying that Alexander is a higher than normal risk of getting past the NCAA clearinghouse due to grade issues.

Yeah, I have heard a couple things like this, but I have no clue whether it is true or not. My first post in this thread was intended just to state what the scholarship situation is/will be at KU and how that might impact the recruitment of Myles Turner. We should have the room for him if he decides he wants to pick Kansas.
It's true, he has a ways to go to get qual'd. I just meant him signing his LOI wasn't the last potential hurdle.

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:05 pm
by ponyboy
What's the word on Exum?

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:10 pm
by CoxMustangFan
HawkinTexas wrote: How in the hell can you say that Frankamp is going to commuter U? That is ridiculous. He is an extremely good 3-point shooter. He won the 3-point shooting contest at the Under Armor competition and I believe he set a record score. Not that any of that matters, but a shooter like that is valuable. Frankamp is also from Kansas and grew up as a KU fan. His hopes and dreams were to play for KU. The chances of Frankamp leaving Kansas are remote at best.
I'm sure you're a great Jayhawk fan that knows Frankamp's family has/had season tix to WSU and you also know his dad won't stand for Frankamp riding the pine. You also know, being a big Jayhawk fan, that despite Frankamp's shooting ability he has been lost beyond lost, is physically weak (not even sure Hudy can help him), and can't play D to save his life. Not redshirting him this year is frankly a solid sign that he'll transfer. If you know you're going to transfer better to play some this year than sit for two straight. Of my above claims I admit this is the one that could go any number of ways, but that's my bet.

Don't get me wrong, love the guy and his passion for KU, but I and 10,000 others are reading the tea leaves on this one.

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:10 pm
by SMU 86
ponyboy wrote:What's the word on Exum?

Since he will turn 19 sometime next year he will probably go pro since he is projected to be a top 10 pick.

Re: Cliff Alexander to sign with Kansas

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:44 am
by LA_Mustang
ponyboy wrote:What's the word on Exum?
I believe he is going to enter the 2014 draft and will not attend college.