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Am I the only one who feels quite seriously aggrieved that we learn so much info from a NYC get together and as DFW peeps we don't get this kind of opportunity?

Great info and I really appreciate you posting.
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Mustangsabu wrote:Am I the only one who feels quite seriously aggrieved that we learn so much info from a NYC get together and as DFW peeps we don't get this kind of opportunity?

Great info and I really appreciate you posting.

Try living in Arkansas.
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mrydel wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:Am I the only one who feels quite seriously aggrieved that we learn so much info from a NYC get together and as DFW peeps we don't get this kind of opportunity?

Great info and I really appreciate you posting.

Try living in Arkansas.


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Statler wrote:
mrydel wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:Am I the only one who feels quite seriously aggrieved that we learn so much info from a NYC get together and as DFW peeps we don't get this kind of opportunity?

Great info and I really appreciate you posting.

Try living in Arkansas.


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ReedFrawg wrote:Seriously??? Now smu doesnt have the resources to tutor 10 to 12 kids per class (Fr, Soph, Jr, Sr). That is a bunch of crap. How can SMU ever fund an IpF if it cant pay tutors????

A professional tutor or is $50-60 per hour. A specialist will cost $100-$150 per hour. Add to that specialized teaching materials, testing and multiply that across all sports (not just FB). The average student is -- just average. So as SMU's academic prestige increases, it will take more academic support resources to keep an average student in the same class with SMU's general student population (who are academically above average and in most cases come from strong educational backgrounds).

All that being said, I imagine the academic support portion of the budget is a comparatively small % of the overall athletics budget (facilities, advertising, salaries, travel, food, uniforms, insurance, equipment, and on and on)
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And as I've pointed out many times with the new 2013 JUCO rules and the unprecedented 2016 Freshman academic redshirt rule/ eligibility standards affecting perhaps as many as 35-40% of recruiting pool a lot of these recruits will be headed to the JUCO route and/or will not be admitted to any Division 1A schools.

The new rules change how schools deal with these remedial students. If they are admitted they will be forced to concentrate on academics during freshman academic redshirt year. If they head to JUCO route they are going to have to meet new core curriculum and 2.5 GPA standards to prove they can perform at the college academic level.

This has been my point all along-all the handwringing and crying about whatever minimum disadvantage in SMU's admission standards will be irrelevant because SMU standards are already well below the coming standards. The gap between student/athletes and the average SMU student will be significantly smaller benefitting schools like SMU because the student athletes will academically better able to succeed in the classroom.

Remember in recruiting think ahead one year. Most schools are already heavily recruiting the Class of 2015 so these changes are a lot closer than they appear. Probably 50% of the Class of 2015 will be committed within 4 months. Larry Brown is already offering Class of 2016 recruits. Recruiting of the Class of 2016 will be in full swing by this time next year.

SMU should be planning for the new reality not some perceived view of the way things used to be in the 1980s. Private schools can and will succeed under these new standards.
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ReedFrawg wrote:Seriously??? Now smu doesnt have the resources to tutor 10 to 12 kids per class (Fr, Soph, Jr, Sr). That is a bunch of crap. How can SMU ever fund an IpF if it cant pay tutors????


Because you don't get to put your name on tutoring. Fame is a great motivator.
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Agree with Stallion here...these new academic standards have not gotten much play and are a game changer at the level the 1973 scholarship reduction to 95 was.

But my spidey sense tells me the P5s are making moves to mitigate the academic changes coming...I would bet that somehow they will not have to comply.
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One thing that you will see- since the recruits will have had 4 years to comply with new standards- is that high school students will be counseled very early that they will have to take more college required courses in high school in their freshman, sophomore and Junior years to have any chance at admission because by their Senior year in high school they have to have passed a high percentage of the required core courses. I forgot the exact number but the days of a failing student "washing" his transcript with a miraculous GPA recovery during Senior year are over. This will have some positive effect on the preparedness of the average freshman recruit. Same thing with the JUCO core requirements-they can't take PE and basketweaving now. They will have to take core remedial math, science and English courses which should prepare them better for a 4 year University.
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Stallion wrote:One thing that you will see- since the recruits will have had 4 years to comply with new standards- is that high school students will be counseled very early that they will have to take more college required courses in high school in their freshman, sophomore and Junior years to have any chance at admission because by their Senior year in high school they have to have passed a high percentage of the required core courses. I forgot the exact number but the days of a failing student "washing" his transcript with a miraculous GPA recovery during Senior year are over. This will have some positive effect on the preparedness of the average freshman recruit. Same thing with the JUCO core requirements-they can't take PE and basketweaving now. They will have to take core remedial math, science and English courses which should prepare them better for a 4 year University.



This assumes the student has a high school counselor that knows what they are doing. I've heard anecdotal evidence that this isn't always the case.
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