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Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:24 am
by Webmaster
redpony wrote:Webmaster: disagree with you opinion.
Hart's comment:
"We are working hard to position all of our programs for championship success."
is pure BS. i.e. look at our men's soccer. We have had a coach for over 6 yrs. now that has been unable to win at the highest level in spite of having substantial talent on the team. The prior coach consistently had teams that were nationally ranked. I know of at least several people that have suggested that a coaching change needs to be made but he refuses to take any action. IMO that is not positioning this program for 'championship success'.
I acknowledge your point about the men's soccer team. However, it wasn't Hart who ran off (arguably) the best collegiate soccer coach in America. He is the one, unfortunately, left with the task of fixing someone else's epic screw-up. I don't know what contract issues are involved, what budget is available or the discussions that may or may not be going on behind closed doors. With respect to the soccer team, you can't judge Hart on the state of that team, only on if and how it is corrected in the years to come.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:48 am
by Big12Mustang
Webmaster wrote:redpony wrote:Webmaster: disagree with you opinion.
Hart's comment:
"We are working hard to position all of our programs for championship success."
is pure BS. i.e. look at our men's soccer. We have had a coach for over 6 yrs. now that has been unable to win at the highest level in spite of having substantial talent on the team. The prior coach consistently had teams that were nationally ranked. I know of at least several people that have suggested that a coaching change needs to be made but he refuses to take any action. IMO that is not positioning this program for 'championship success'.
I acknowledge your point about the men's soccer team. However, it wasn't Hart who ran off (arguably) the best collegiate soccer coach in America. He is the one, unfortunately, left with the task of fixing someone else's epic screw-up. I don't know what contract issues are involved, what budget is available or the discussions that may or may not be going on behind closed doors. With respect to the soccer team, you can't judge Hart on the state of that team, only on if and how it is corrected in the years to come.
Agreed, Hart got stuck with the current situation...none of this was of his doing. I have faith he will lead us to where we want to go.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:57 pm
by ponyboy
ponyscott wrote: SMU won 57% of their games in the past four years under June Jones . How did other teams with a comparable overall winning percentage do on the road against winning/ranked teams?
Can I ask a favor? Can you simplify and answer how those same teams you listed (with comparable winning percentages) did OVERALL -- not just on the road -- against teams with winning records? In other words, what happens when you include our home winning percentage against teams with winning records?
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:36 pm
by Water Pony
In addition to Soccer, Men's and Women's Swimming & Diving Teams hardly resemble the rich histories of both programs. Granted, Hart inherited the lack of a competitive swimming and diving facility, but to suggest that SMU is positioning these two sports for success is simply untrue. Public statements that we are actively planning for a replacement Natatorium is disingenuous to those of us who are close to the programs and understand the lack of progress for more than a dozen years, despite persistent efforts and substantial support from Friends of SMU Swimming.

Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:49 pm
by Big12Mustang
Water Pony wrote:In addition to Soccer, Men's and Women's Swimming & Diving Teams hardly resemble the rich histories of both programs. Granted, Hart inherited the lack of a competitive swimming and diving facility, but to suggest that SMU is positioning these two sports for success is simply untrue. Public statements that we are actively planning for a replacement Natatorium is disingenuous to those of us who are close to the programs and understand the lack of progress for more than a dozen years, despite persistent efforts and substantial support from Friends of SMU Swimming.

They've been telling us they are building an Indoor Practice Facility for Football and other sports since 2011...now they say it will be built by 2015. For the natatorium, I would not hold my breath on it until they finish the Tennis courts and other facilities

Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:18 pm
by PlanoStang
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:14 am
by malonish
The area HS coaches did it for him. They said they don't recruit as well as any other school and need to step it up.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:06 am
by Big12Mustang
The area HS coaches did it for him. They said they don't recruit as well as any other school and need to step it up.[/quote]
Boom!
No more questions, your Honor!
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:09 am
by ponyboy
ponyboy wrote:ponyscott wrote: SMU won 57% of their games in the past four years under June Jones . How did other teams with a comparable overall winning percentage do on the road against winning/ranked teams?
Can I ask a favor? Can you simplify and answer how those same teams you listed (with comparable winning percentages) did OVERALL -- not just on the road -- against teams with winning records? In other words, what happens when you include our home winning percentage against teams with winning records?
I know if must have taken a long time. If you'll show me your method, ponyscott, I'll pull the data if that helps.
Overall winning percentage, maybe broken out by home versus road, against teams with winning records.
Thanks.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:11 am
by JoeKidd
redpony wrote:Webmaster: disagree with you opinion.
Hart's comment:
"We are working hard to position all of our programs for championship success."
is pure BS. i.e. look at our men's soccer. We have had a coach for over 6 yrs. now that has been unable to win at the highest level in spite of having substantial talent on the team. The prior coach consistently had teams that were nationally ranked. I know of at least several people that have suggested that a coaching change needs to be made but he refuses to take any action. IMO that is not positioning this program for 'championship success'.
Serious question-Does soccer even full under the athletics department or is it under Meadows?
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:02 pm
by East Coast Mustang
JoeKidd wrote:redpony wrote:Webmaster: disagree with you opinion.
Hart's comment:
"We are working hard to position all of our programs for championship success."
is pure BS. i.e. look at our men's soccer. We have had a coach for over 6 yrs. now that has been unable to win at the highest level in spite of having substantial talent on the team. The prior coach consistently had teams that were nationally ranked. I know of at least several people that have suggested that a coaching change needs to be made but he refuses to take any action. IMO that is not positioning this program for 'championship success'.
Serious question-Does soccer even full under the athletics department or is it under Meadows?
You'll get a lot of [deleted] for this, but I laughed.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:03 pm
by SMUer
We are the only D1 men's soccer school IN TEXAS...'nough said. I'm tired of drooling over our soccer program--it was under-achieving even when Hyndman was here.
*EDIT* Houston Baptist joined Div. 1 in 2007
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:40 pm
by redpony
SMUer wrote:We are the only D1 men's soccer school IN TEXAS...'nough said.
And with our coach the aggie's womens team would kick their butts.
BTW- webmaster- yes, casper inherited a bad situation but after two seasons has still failed to correct it. Also, I doubt if there is a buyout for TMc like their is for the tiki bum.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:42 pm
by ponyscott
ponyboy wrote:ponyboy wrote:ponyscott wrote: SMU won 57% of their games in the past four years under June Jones . How did other teams with a comparable overall winning percentage do on the road against winning/ranked teams?
Can I ask a favor? Can you simplify and answer how those same teams you listed (with comparable winning percentages) did OVERALL -- not just on the road -- against teams with winning records? In other words, what happens when you include our home winning percentage against teams with winning records?
I know if must have taken a long time. If you'll show me your method, ponyscott, I'll pull the data if that helps.
Overall winning percentage, maybe broken out by home versus road, against teams with winning records.
Thanks.[/quote
Sorry little ponyboy....you embarrass yourself with every continual weak [deleted] post about your idol JJ ...or just sports for that matter that we see from you. You have absolutely no clue about sports in general and it's just piling on to even reply to you.
Re: Letter to Rick Hart
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:51 pm
by couch 'em
Ponyscott coming unusually harsh