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gostangs wrote:oja is a cali guy living in Austin. Don't have to really know any more than that about his gonja opinion.

gonja? now we really do need the grammar police!

jk

ojaipony wrote:

malonish wrote:

ojaipony wrote:WTF?!? Surprising - seems like the kid is a stand up guy. Reminds me of the same feeling I got when I heard Taylor was kicked off. If it was just from smoking the reefer, this is stupid. We need him on the field.

It's still an unlawful action(in most states) and we don't need people breaking laws if that was the case.

I went 5 miles above the speed limit this morning. Maybe I should stop being involved in Mustang Club now.

Guess we need to start passing around my special combo of Meth and Heroin, I call it Methroin.
Then again let's not compare a motor violation with a drug charge

malonish wrote: Guess we need to start passing around my special combo of Meth and Heroin, I call it Methroin.
Then again let's not compare a motor violation with a drug charge

Is smoking weed a misdemeanor like a traffic ticket for speeding or is it a felony like murder?

SMU 86 wrote:

malonish wrote: Guess we need to start passing around my special combo of Meth and Heroin, I call it Methroin.
Then again let's not compare a motor violation with a drug charge

Is smoking weed a misdemeanor like a traffic ticket for speeding or is it a felony like murder?

http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Penalty depends on the amount possessed, manufactured, or sold. Smoking itself is not really an offense(unless caught mid toke-> possession) but a team/employer may fire you if testing positive for it is against policy.

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malonish wrote:

SMU 86 wrote:

malonish wrote: Guess we need to start passing around my special combo of Meth and Heroin, I call it Methroin.
Then again let's not compare a motor violation with a drug charge

Is smoking weed a misdemeanor like a traffic ticket for speeding or is it a felony like murder?

http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Penalty depends on the amount possessed, manufactured, or sold. Smoking itself is not really an offense(unless caught mid toke-> possession) but a team/employer may fire you if testing positive for it is against policy.

The bottom line is that it is against the law. While that might change, it might not.

Even traffic tickets come with penalties (Hello Defensive Driving and "court fees"). If Nlemchi broke the rules, he needs to pay a penalty. While he certainly doesn't deserve "the chair," a couple game suspension is probably not out of line.

Otherwise, you end up with programs like FSU where players get away with small stuff to the point that they expect to get away with serious felonies.

Digetydog wrote:
Otherwise, you end up with programs like FSU

You mean, national championships? Ok, let's not do that.

For the record, and as hard as it might be to believe, I've never even touched a single illegal drug. Heck, I've never even smoked a cigarette and only drink a bourbon occasionally. The very first time I ever even SAW a joint was when I was at SMU . . . by the way.

if its picked up on an NCAA random drug test or through school disciplinary procedure-its has to be dealt with in accordance with SMU school policy. Usually that includes more than one strike before playing time is lost. Also it is an NCAA violation for a school to fail to follow its own drug policy.

One toke over the line!

Pfft. Stuff needs to be legalized anyway.

ojaipony wrote:

Digetydog wrote:
Otherwise, you end up with programs like FSU

You mean, national championships? Ok, let's not do that.

For the record, and as hard as it might be to believe, I've never even touched a single illegal drug. Heck, I've never smoked and only drink a bourbon occasionally. The very first time I ever even SAW a joint was when I was at SMU . . . by the way.

While I did drink a bit back in my fraternity days, I have never inhaled or really felt the need to try illegal drugs. Just not my thing.

My point was that sustainable FB programs set reasonable rules and they enforce them ensuring that players understand that there are consequences for their actions. Unless players face consequences, someone eventually pushes things "too far" to cover up and the program suffers.

Jameis Winston lies, cheats, steals, assaults and he gets less punishment. That is one reason they win championships and we win sportsmanship awards.

ojaipony wrote:

Digetydog wrote:
Otherwise, you end up with programs like FSU

You mean, national championships? Ok, let's not do that.

For the record, and as hard as it might be to believe, I've never even touched a single illegal drug. Heck, I've never smoked and only drink a bourbon occasionally. The very first time I ever even SAW a joint was when I was at SMU . . . by the way.

First time you saw a joint was at SMU? You must have gone to a candyass highschool!

Digetydog wrote:

ojaipony wrote:

Digetydog wrote:
Otherwise, you end up with programs like FSU

You mean, national championships? Ok, let's not do that.

For the record, and as hard as it might be to believe, I've never even touched a single illegal drug. Heck, I've never smoked and only drink a bourbon occasionally. The very first time I ever even SAW a joint was when I was at SMU . . . by the way.

While I did drink a bit back in my fraternity days, I have never inhaled or really felt the need to try illegal drugs. Just not my thing.

My point was that sustainable FB programs set reasonable rules and they enforce them ensuring that players understand that there are consequences for their actions. Unless players face consequences, someone eventually pushes things "too far" to cover up and the program suffers.

Just one look at all the dopers and criminals at UT that Brown had can contradict that. You must not have heard of Florida and other SEC schools. SMU is not a drug free campus by the way. And if you think players at Alabama and OU don't smoke dope then you are not living in reality. Former OU player Adrian Peterson just admitted to smoking dope. You think he just started after he graduated from OU.

a lot of players at Big Time powerhouses are suspended every year for "violating team rules" when its really multiple positive drug test strikes under school policy. You think anybody not following SMU has even heard of Niemchi or that he was suspended. Same thing with all you guys thinking SMU is so much different than everybody else.