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ponyboy wrote:"System works" equals winning.

Against inferior teams. He best 1 P5?


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[quote="ponyboy"]But it did. Four bowl games. He only stopped his "talent acquisition methods" once the Mexican standoff ensured around the time of the ASU debacle.[/quoteyou are dreaming. The system quit when Bennetts players were gone.

ponyboy wrote:But it did. Four bowl games. He only stopped his "talent acquisition methods" once the Mexican standoff ensured around the time of the ASU debacle.

Really, I thought it was because he ran out of Bennett recruits and his best 2 recruiter left. Why are you posting this? Do you have a Jones for Jones or something?

Let me spell this out. JJ has an odd system. He used that odd system, both on the talent acquisition front and on the football field, to dramatically turn around both UH and SMU. During his fourth season here at SMU, the 2011 season, tensions with the SMU administration mounted, I am guessing around the support structures for SMU student athletes. By December, he had an out to a PAC12 school -- and planned to take that out. SMU was slightly surprised, but also a bit relieved. When that fell through, both hands were forced and we started to play Mexican Standoff, a game that would last all the 2012, 2013 seasons, ending when SMU finally gave in and paid JJ off in the early part of the 2014 season. He hasn't engaged in active talent acquisition since that 2011 class.

Blame JJ? Maybe. Blame the SMU administration? Maybe. But that's what happened. He brought about two unbelievably dramatic transformations, back to back. No reason to believe he couldn't do it again.

Rebel10 wrote:Do you have a Jones for Jones or something?

I have a Jones for the truth.

Please lay off the egg nog Ponyboy.

Sure, he could turn it around again - If he hires a REAL staff with aggressive recruiters in his region, he will do ok and actually better. He refused to do that and was stupid and stubborn. SMU camps were a fail. He could have kept the momentum going, really not that difficult to figure out. If his psychic behavior guy is available, maybe he will win some more also.

I don't really care what JJ does anymore. The book is closed.

pboy-tell your dad we are glad he is gone. you mention bowl games- we go to crap bowl games that are nothing while 'down the road' in cowtown they go to the Rose Bowl.. not quite the same.
tiki bilked this school out of millions and did nothing to earn it. IMO he was/is a lazy stinkin, lying, unethical POS that doesn't deserve another coaching job at any university.
BTW- the system you claim was his was actually one created by Mouse.

He can't recruit unless he's allowed to take lost causes that nobody else will touch. He would probably be a great juco coach

ponyboy wrote:Let me spell this out. JJ has an odd system. He used that odd system, both on the talent acquisition front and on the football field, to dramatically turn around both UH and SMU. During his fourth season here at SMU, the 2011 season, tensions with the SMU administration mounted, I am guessing around the support structures for SMU student athletes. By December, he had an out to a PAC12 school -- and planned to take that out. SMU was slightly surprised, but also a bit relieved. When that fell through, both hands were forced and we started to play Mexican Standoff, a game that would last all the 2012, 2013 seasons, ending when SMU finally gave in and paid JJ off in the early part of the 2014 season. He hasn't engaged in active talent acquisition since that 2011 class.

Blame JJ? Maybe. Blame the SMU administration? Maybe. But that's what happened. He brought about two unbelievably dramatic transformations, back to back. No reason to believe he couldn't do it again.

Do what - play golf instead of recruiting?


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ponyboy wrote:Let me spell this out. JJ has an odd system. He used that odd system, both on the talent acquisition front and on the football field, to dramatically turn around both UH and SMU. During his fourth season here at SMU, the 2011 season, tensions with the SMU administration mounted, I am guessing around the support structures for SMU student athletes. By December, he had an out to a PAC12 school -- and planned to take that out. SMU was slightly surprised, but also a bit relieved. When that fell through, both hands were forced and we started to play Mexican Standoff, a game that would last all the 2012, 2013 seasons, ending when SMU finally gave in and paid JJ off in the early part of the 2014 season. He hasn't engaged in active talent acquisition since that 2011 class.

Blame JJ? Maybe. Blame the SMU administration? Maybe. But that's what happened. He brought about two unbelievably dramatic transformations, back to back. No reason to believe he couldn't do it again.

You are "guessing around the support structure for SMU athletes"? Do you have any factual statements from that time to back this up?

GiddyUp wrote:Sure, he could turn it around again - If he hires a REAL staff with aggressive recruiters in his region, he will do ok

How did Hawaii happen? How did SMU happen? Why couldn't the same happen at a UNLV?

Grant Carter wrote:You are "guessing around the support structure for SMU athletes"? Do you have any factual statements from that time to back this up?

Nope. I know he got sideways with the SMU administration. I know LB also got sideways with the SMU administration. I believe it's for the same reason and I'm guessing it's around the support structure for SMU athletes.

If JJ is so good and was at the top of his market after bring SMU and UH back, why was there such a backlash against him from ASU? Maybe the problem wasn't SMU.


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ponyboy wrote:

GiddyUp wrote:Sure, he could turn it around again - If he hires a REAL staff with aggressive recruiters in his region, he will do ok

How did Hawaii happen? How did SMU happen? Why couldn't the same happen at a UNLV?

Well we are the worst team in college D1 football after his tenure here. So yes he can do that again.

mrydel wrote:

ponyboy wrote:

GiddyUp wrote:Sure, he could turn it around again - If he hires a REAL staff with aggressive recruiters in his region, he will do ok

How did Hawaii happen? How did SMU happen? Why couldn't the same happen at a UNLV?

Well we are the worst team in college D1 football after his tenure here. So yes he can do that again.

Hawaii sucked pretty bad after he bailed on them too.


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