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The XtC wrote:

huskerpony wrote:

Dutch wrote:

Grider wrote:Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

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I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."

Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

EastStang wrote:

The XtC wrote:

huskerpony wrote:

Dutch wrote:

Grider wrote:Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

<Edit>
I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."

Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

On the spring sport thing, I thought they changed that rule a few years back. That is how we had a QB who had played minor league baseball. On the other hand, there was that Colorado football player who got denied eligibility because he had ski endorsement deals. Its very murky.