SMU vs Houston - 17.5/18

[smu diamond m]

In fact you are correct-after Dement was fired and after about 35 years of going to just about every game- I started a new phase in my relationship with SMU BB-not giving a [deleted] just like SMU's administration hasn't for 20 years. I've found better things to do than pretending the the whole damn program wasn't flawed.

If this university had supported Mike Dement from the beginning he easily could have had us in the NCAAs.

If this university had given Matt Doherty the tools he needed on the date he was hired we wouldn't be in Year 2 of a 5-6 year building program.

Years and years and years later we still can't find a Coach in football or basketball that can perform better than the "great" Mike Cavan or "great" Mike Dement-who told you that at the time? Who told you the essential problem was not a Coaching problem but a Model problem?

Hopefully, they've finally learned that I was correct many years ago and have changed the Model to allow them to compete. But you know I'm still having trouble giving a [deleted] about a basketball program that expected its coach to turn this program without a quick infusion of immediate help from the JUCO ranks or Division 1A Transfers-so I'll just give a [deleted] when they're good again just like 98% of SMU fans-the Truth you don't want to hear.

The day SMU is good in Basketball and Football will be the day our rosters are filled with relatively(CUSA standards) highly recruited Division 1A Transfers, JUCOs, Preps, low qualifiers, late qualifiers etc just like the championship teams in CUSA..

And when you return, you'll just be labled as fair weather.

You still a big 10 fan?

[George S. Patton]

Always. I know the conference was horrible in other sports but just because it was horrible doesn't mean you run off and hide. You're with the teams you choose come hell or high water.

[smu diamond m]

Always. I know the conference was horrible in other sports but just because it was horrible doesn't mean you run off and hide. You're with the teams you choose come hell or high water.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think you had a stake in the Big 10.


Although I suppose I don't know better...

[gostangs]

My initial post was responding to some apparent expectations that we would look good this year (against Houston no less - and yes Houston is pretty good this year Hoop Fan - don't kid yourself - but then again you liked sleepyhead Tubbs, so you have no credibility). I am no basketball genius - nor did I claim to be - I just think with a little basketball knowledge one can see that this team has a bright future - and since L.A. asked so nicely I will offer some detail (although I dont care a bit if you are "ticked off")

Dia - best upside of any player we have had in well over 10 yrs - and that includes Sasser and Q. Full package - big basketball body - aggressive - nice touch on his shot - lots of hustle and emotion - he is a really exciting player.

Harp - starting to come around now that he is settled in as a 2 guard - and he will look MUCH better when we have a decent point guard since he won't have as much ball handling pressure. Defense has improved a ton. Hopefully he will be a back-up shooting guard once we get a pure shooter.

Malone - Really nice shooting motion and slashes around pretty well. Needs a bunch of work on his shot selection. A good point will get him better seperation. My prediction will be he will be "most improved" next year.

Walker - only one I think you can say is a disappointment - although his three point shot is coming around. Probably the back up to the point guard we dont have yet.

Two frustrations:

1) to echo Stallion - some JUCO help would speed this up alot - and should have been done already

2) we are DESPERATE for a good point - we have to address this to see any change - i have faith Doh knows this more then anyone. Killen is a nice guy but I dont think anyone ever saw him as our starting point guard - 50% of our issue is right there. Hoop is correct that although Dez is nothing that special we could use him this year - not sure the play time for the youngsters is not more valuable - its not like we were dancing this year anyway.

Next year with the addition of Rhodes (fast driver to the bucket), the Pol (will split time with Fall - offers more body knocking inside) and the Gtech transfer who is supposedly fantastic - we will see big improvement - remember how bare the shelves were here.

A couple of more Doh classes and a JUCO or two - and I am hopeful this team sees the tournament in two years as the number two or three CUSA team.

[George S. Patton]

Always. I know the conference was horrible in other sports but just because it was horrible doesn't mean you run off and hide. You're with the teams you choose come hell or high water.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think you had a stake in the Big 10.


Although I suppose I don't know better...

I have no idea what that means.

[smu diamond m]

Always. I know the conference was horrible in other sports but just because it was horrible doesn't mean you run off and hide. You're with the teams you choose come hell or high water.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think you had a stake in the Big 10.


Although I suppose I don't know better...

I have no idea what that means.

The first statement should make sense, the second just alluding to the fact that I don't actually know anything about you.

[George S. Patton]

Gotcha

[EastStang]

Without a serviceable general (point guard) it is nearly impossible to win. I think other than at point guard this team will be two deep at virtually every other position next year. Perhaps, Doh can figure out an offense where the point guard is not necessary. But who beats the inevitable press if that happens. This is the test of his coaching ability.

[papawasamustang]

It's just not that difficult to find a pg. Its the easiest position to find in college bb. I'm confused why it is for us.

I'm really pulling for Doh to hold the squad together & I hope they don't quit on him. There are @ least 3-4 games we should win or @ least have a chance to win.

[Hoop Fan]

no kidding. There are at least 20 kids in DFW high schools right now who would run the point more effectively than everyone on our roster outside of Killen who we all know is not a natural point. Heck, Kimball has two, maybe three guys who would look great running the point. Even the kid from Highland Park...not a high major prospect, but he can feed the post with the best of em and would get the ball to Papa on time and in the right spots. i'm naming guys we would or should have a shot at in theory, not guys like Vilarino or Willie Warren. By the way, looks like Rice signed Tony Hills son from Plano East to be their point guard of the future. Lookout, another guy who will have a chip on his shoulder every time he comes to Moody.

[The XtC]

[quote="gostangs"]Of course not you nit wit - not against Houston - second best team in the conference.

Anyone who can see the guys on the court and the ones on the bench and not see that this program is on its way up does not know much about basketball. Anyone who thought it would happen year one is also a ninny.

Trying to run with these guys would have been way worse.[/quote]

I guess I dont know much about basketball, then. And there sure were a boatload of ninny's on this board last spring.

[The XtC]

[quote="Stallion"]
The day SMU is good in Basketball and Football will be the day our rosters are filled with relatively(CUSA standards) highly recruited Division 1A Transfers, JUCOs, Preps, low qualifiers, late qualifiers etc just like the championship teams in CUSA..[/quote]

So if I told you that our basketball program was going to bring in a transfer from a perennial basketball powerhouse, a school that was consistently in the top-25, and had been to the Final Four within the last 5 years, would that make you happy?

And to sweeten the deal a bit, this transfer was a Non-qualifier his freshman year, and only passed 1 1/2 years worth of credits at his former school, in 2 1/2 years of attendance. He would have been academically ineligible this semester, but that became a non-issue when he was caught cheating for the second time, and was kicked out of school. Is that bottom of the barrel enough to satisfy you?

Of course, a player like that would have to pass more classes in 1 year at SMU than he did in 2 1/2 years at his former school, just to be eligible after he sits out. Considering that he showed no interest in opening his text books at his former school, the chances of his making that kind of complete reversal dont seem very high. And, since non-qualifiers have to finish a degree in 4 years, in order to use their 5th year, well........... it wouldnt seem like such a player would have much chance for a long career at his new school. But, that doesnt really matter, we can all do backflips and celebrate because we used a scholarship we dont have to bring in a transfer that no other school in the country wanted to touch with a 10 foot pole.