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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:37 pm
by mrydel
PonySoprano wrote:The big issue I have with the library is that unless something changes, it will not be a source for scholarly study of W's presidency.
In 2001, W signed an Executive Order that basically reversed the public right to access presidential papers, which was part of the 1978 Presidential Records Act.
The Executive Order allows W (and his heirs) to indefinitely postpone public release of sensitive material past the law's 12 year waiting period.
I am afraid that we might have a library with no presidential papers in it.
Maybe we could lease it to Vodika to live in until the papers are released.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:38 pm
by OC Mustang
EastStang wrote:Actually, I was hoping that SMU would let it be completely separate. Now it does look like SMU is actively involved in the Institute but only has a minority vote. I think those who clamored for the school to not let this Institute be completely independent are going to regret it. But hey I liked Bush as President and I'm probably classified as a Conservative, so I won't be an alum who is embarrassed.
I can be classified as a moderate to liberal Texas Democrat, and I'm not embarrassed by the library either. It will be a wonderful addition to the university. I share jtstang's concerns about SMU being able to control its own campus and the public image associated with same. However, the world already has its opinion about the U.S., Bush, Dallas, SMU, and the Methodist Church. I don't think the Hilltop will receive the same PR slap in the face that it did for the DP. I may be wrong, but somehow, right/wrong/indifferent, I doubt it.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:26 pm
by The Spaz
In related news, how awesome is the "Vote for John McCain" ad in Ponyfans now?
Politically unbiased, my white [deleted]
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:32 pm
by couch 'em
The Spaz wrote:Politically unbiased, my white [deleted]
So what, I'm supposed to respect you more because your [deleted] is white?
Racially tolerant my fat [deleted]
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:32 pm
by smupony94
The Spaz wrote:In related news, how awesome is the "Vote for John McCain" ad in Ponyfans now?
Politically unbiased, my white [deleted]
Have not seen those, but I am wondering if anyone has tried the IMVU 3d chatline
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:36 pm
by Samurai Stang
The Spaz wrote:In related news, how awesome is the "Vote for John McCain" ad in Ponyfans now?
Politically unbiased, my white [deleted]
Consider yourself fortunate. The website is telling me to vote for Hillary Clinton. I am not familiar with this candidate. What sort of man is he?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:36 pm
by Bergermeister
jtstang wrote: And in fairness to what I have been saying here, this may not be as bad as I thought.
So, can we go ahead with the plans?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:43 pm
by The Spaz
Samurai Stang wrote:The Spaz wrote:In related news, how awesome is the "Vote for John McCain" ad in Ponyfans now?
Politically unbiased, my white [deleted]
Consider yourself fortunate. The website is telling me to vote for Hillary Clinton. I am not familiar with this candidate. What sort of man is he?
Genius!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:45 pm
by PK
mrydel wrote:PonySoprano wrote:The big issue I have with the library is that unless something changes, it will not be a source for scholarly study of W's presidency.
In 2001, W signed an Executive Order that basically reversed the public right to access presidential papers, which was part of the 1978 Presidential Records Act.
The Executive Order allows W (and his heirs) to indefinitely postpone public release of sensitive material past the law's 12 year waiting period.
I am afraid that we might have a library with no presidential papers in it.
Maybe we could lease it to Vodika to live in until the papers are released.
Executive Orders can be reversed by Executive Orders can they not? I would think that there will come a President to the Oval Office who will be so inclined to do so.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:16 pm
by smupony94
From Fark.com
SMU finally agrees to host Bush Presidential library, White House immediately starts transferring all the coloring books he has finished
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:25 pm
by jtstang
Bring on the bookmobile!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:48 pm
by PonySoprano
PK wrote:mrydel wrote:PonySoprano wrote:The big issue I have with the library is that unless something changes, it will not be a source for scholarly study of W's presidency.
In 2001, W signed an Executive Order that basically reversed the public right to access presidential papers, which was part of the 1978 Presidential Records Act.
The Executive Order allows W (and his heirs) to indefinitely postpone public release of sensitive material past the law's 12 year waiting period.
I am afraid that we might have a library with no presidential papers in it.
Maybe we could lease it to Vodika to live in until the papers are released.
Executive Orders can be reversed by Executive Orders can they not? I would think that there will come a President to the Oval Office who will be so inclined to do so.
Yes, but this Executive Order applies to all Presidents, not just W. So what incentive would any future President have to issue an EO that reverses this one?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:20 pm
by PK
EGO!...plus wanting to get Bush's papers out there for all to see...maybe.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:16 pm
by RushStPony
smupony94 wrote:From Fark.com
SMU finally agrees to host Bush Presidential library, White House immediately starts transferring all the coloring books he has finished
D.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:23 pm
by Canadian Mustang
we're getting a new library? big deal. i never went to the one that's already there.