Gilbert at practice?

goldenstang · Post by **goldenstang** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:21 pm

Wuba wrote:Stallion - you keep saying no one can redshirt after they have had a medical waiver. Can you please point us to where in the rules it says this, or even an article that references it? If not, what do you base your assertion on?

You can redshirt or sit out, you just don't get another year of eligibility. So it would be a waste of a year. Only way to get a sixth year is if you are hurt for two or more seasons.

Wuba · Post by **Wuba** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:22 pm

goldenstang wrote:
Wuba wrote:Stallion - you keep saying no one can redshirt after they have had a medical waiver. Can you please point us to where in the rules it says this, or even an article that references it? If not, what do you base your assertion on?

You can redshirt you just don't get another year of eligibility. Only way to get a sixth year is if you are hurt for two or more seasons.

Where does it say that in the rules? I read the hardship rules and I must have missed it if it is there.

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:23 pm

goldenstang wrote:
Wuba wrote:Stallion - you keep saying no one can redshirt after they have had a medical waiver. Can you please point us to where in the rules it says this, or even an article that references it? If not, what do you base your assertion on?

You can redshirt or sit out, you just don't get another year of eligibility. So it would be a waste of a year. Only way to get a sixth year is if you are hurt for two or more seasons.

that would make sense to me.

so, to clarify, you're saying that he would get his FIFTH year of eligibility (5 to play 4 + redshirt waiver granted by big 12), correct?

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:25 pm

Wuba wrote:
goldenstang wrote:
Wuba wrote:Stallion - you keep saying no one can redshirt after they have had a medical waiver. Can you please point us to where in the rules it says this, or even an article that references it? If not, what do you base your assertion on?

You can redshirt you just don't get another year of eligibility. Only way to get a sixth year is if you are hurt for two or more seasons.

Where does it say that in the rules? I read the hardship rules and I must have missed it if it is there.

Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests
For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met: The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition.
The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season.
The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating.
Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided.

All percentages are calculated according to contests or dates of competition, depending on how your sport's competitive opportunities are counted. Only contests or dates of competition occurring during the championship (traditional) season are included in the calculations. Conference championships/tournaments are counted as one contest or date of competition, regardless of the actual contest/dates used.
If the percentage calculation for the 20-percent rule results in a decimal -- any decimal -- the whole number preceding it is always rounded up. For example, if the softball team competes in 56 games, 20 percent of 56 is 11.2. Due to the "rounding-up," a softball team member who competed in 12 games does qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
To meet the first-half-of-the-season requirement, all competition must cease prior to the start of the contest or date of competition that begins the second half of the season. For example, a soccer player competing in the 10th game of a 19-game season does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver. Also, a student-athlete who is injured in the first half of the season, then attempts to play in the second half and aggravates the original injury, does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
NOTE: A STUDENT-ATHLETE RECEIVING A MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVER IS PERMITTED UNLIMITED PARTICIPATION IN THE NON-TRADITIONAL (NON-CHAMPIONSHIP) PORTION OF THE SEASON.

goldenstang · Post by **goldenstang** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:25 pm

Wuba wrote:Where does it say that in the rules? I read the hardship rules and I must have missed it if it is there.

Can you provide link to rules.

Wuba · Post by **Wuba** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:29 pm

Junior wrote:
Wuba wrote:
goldenstang wrote:
You can redshirt you just don't get another year of eligibility. Only way to get a sixth year is if you are hurt for two or more seasons.

Where does it say that in the rules? I read the hardship rules and I must have missed it if it is there.

Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests
For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met: The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition.
The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season.
The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating.
Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided.

All percentages are calculated according to contests or dates of competition, depending on how your sport's competitive opportunities are counted. Only contests or dates of competition occurring during the championship (traditional) season are included in the calculations. Conference championships/tournaments are counted as one contest or date of competition, regardless of the actual contest/dates used.
If the percentage calculation for the 20-percent rule results in a decimal -- any decimal -- the whole number preceding it is always rounded up. For example, if the softball team competes in 56 games, 20 percent of 56 is 11.2. Due to the "rounding-up," a softball team member who competed in 12 games does qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
To meet the first-half-of-the-season requirement, all competition must cease prior to the start of the contest or date of competition that begins the second half of the season. For example, a soccer player competing in the 10th game of a 19-game season does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver. Also, a student-athlete who is injured in the first half of the season, then attempts to play in the second half and aggravates the original injury, does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
NOTE: A STUDENT-ATHLETE RECEIVING A MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVER IS PERMITTED UNLIMITED PARTICIPATION IN THE NON-TRADITIONAL (NON-CHAMPIONSHIP) PORTION OF THE SEASON.

Don't see anything about having to miss two years there, what am I missing?

Wuba · Post by **Wuba** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:30 pm

goldenstang wrote:
Wuba wrote:Where does it say that in the rules? I read the hardship rules and I must have missed it if it is there.

Can you provide link to rules.

Link at the bottom of earlier post on this thread:
http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55987&start=15#p703092

goldenstang · Post by **goldenstang** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:30 pm

You don't see anything about being awarded a sixth year in there either do you.

PonyPlayer4 · Post by **PonyPlayer4** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:31 pm

"A junior, Gilbert would still have two years of eligibility to play."

Middle of the article from the front page of ESPN

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... t-transfer

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:34 pm

Austin media calling him good kid good high school player but college bust

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:35 pm

Ut reporter in Austin also said 2 years

ponydawg · Post by **ponydawg** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:38 pm

Its up to Gary.

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:41 pm

This could be perfect. Assuming KP gets it together, it should be his job to lose next year. GG could learn the system while sitting out his transfer year, then be ready to compete for the job in 2013, which coincidentally would be Printz's first year on campus. Lot of HS QB talent there.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:42 pm

I think his only shot would be if as Goldenstang said he had medically verfied proof that he was not medically cleared in 2012. Even then he is not missing a year because of injury-he is missing a year because of tranfer which isn't the same thing as for example Jordan Shipley. He's already played in 3 years and will get a 4th. NCAA doesn't guarantee 5 full seasons.

goldenstang · Post by **goldenstang** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:42 pm

I know they are saying two years but do they mean two years of eligibility or what. If He went FCS or stayed at Texas he would have two years. I don't understand why on earth he would have two years to play at a fbs school if he choose to transfer and sit out a year. This season is basically going to be like a redshirt season, I am not sure why he would get two redshirt seasons.