ReedFrawg wrote: And stop wearing the damn lei...put on a red and blue SMU polo. They are paying you $2mm per year!
I doubt that will happen. In fact, I expect to see it more often next season. As I've said before, he's never committed himself to the university and its traditions. He's just here for the paycheck and he feels he needs to continue to win to get himself out of here.
ReedFrawg wrote: And stop wearing the damn lei...put on a red and blue SMU polo. They are paying you $2mm per year!
I doubt that will happen. In fact, I expect to see it more often next season. As I've said before, he's never committed himself to the university and its traditions. He's just here for the paycheck and he feels he needs to continue to win to get himself out of here.
I totally agree. I know patterson is an easy target sometimes but you never have to wonder if he cares. He also supports tcu and fort worth at all times. June always looks like he doesn't want to be there - you guys/gals need a coach with some fire and intensity.
huskerpony wrote:Answer to second question is fairly obvious from the circumstatial evidence.
I'd say we dont have all the details or enough to crucify June Jones over recruiting weekend. This player Brown had no contact ever with ASU before he committed to ASU? Are you claiming June Jones called this player & asked him to de-commit from SMU? Who was recruiting Brown for SMU? How do we know some asst didnt leak the info to Brown without June's knowledge? Husker I am not saying you are wrong....I am just saying we dont have all the facts.
BTW the assistant Coach at ASU that the kid committed to was a former June Jones Coach or was it player-can't remember. Also the report of a late nite phone by June Jones to Dennis Erickson to discuss the 2012 Recruiting Class was troublesome. There were some other reports too.
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:BTW the assistant Coach at ASU that the kid committed to was a former June Jones Coach or was it player-can't remember. Also the report of a late nite phone by June Jones to Dennis Erickson to discuss the 2012 Recruiting Class was troublesome. There were some other reports too.
Steve Broussard, he's ASU's WR coach, he was a RB with the Falcons from 90-93 when June was OC. Supposedly June was going to keep him on staff.
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ReedFrawg wrote:And stop wearing the damn lei...put on a red and blue SMU polo. They are paying you $2mm per year!
On that we can agree ReedFrawg. After several years it's time to put it away. You would think common sense and self preservation would dictate promoting SMU any and every way possible and that means the coaching staff all wearing SMU gear as much as possible. Why does our seondary coach where a green shirt on the sidelines? That should not be allowed. If a coach needs to stand out so players on the field can find their position coach do it somehow with SMU colors. Other successful coaching staffs seem to be able to handle this with their own colors. A new sincere commitment to embracing Dallas, SMU colors, and SMU traditions by this coaching staff would go a long way in healing some wounds.
BTW I'd say its very unusual for a school to accept a commitment before they had a Head Coach especially since they have a full class-less unusual though if it was understood that Broussard was going to accept a position on a June Jones staff. Most schools will wait until new coach is hired
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Not to mention it was a little strange the kid didn't wait a little while. For him to commit and then un-commit in a matter of a couple of days w/ in this time period. Very odd.
Stallion wrote:BTW I'd say its very unusual for a school to accept a commitment before they had a Head Coach
But cant we assume ASU probably thought they had a head coach that was about to sign on the dotted line?
Stallion wrote:less unusual though if it was understood that Broussard was going to accept a position on a June Jones staff. Most schools will wait until new coach is hired
If Brown never had any contact with ASU before this week then I agree it is quite unusual. But if Brown was leaked the info about June becoming the new coach at ASU how do know it was June Jones the leaker and not some over-zealous asst coach at SMU or someone at ASU leaking the info to Brown? Is June to be crucified if one of his asst coaches recruiting Brown got excited and on his own leaked the info to Brown?
again Broussard is one of Jones' former players-Jones called Dennis Erickson to discuss ASU's 2012 recruiting class on Tuesday Nite. We in fact have been told that certain recruits were told by SMU Coaches that Jones would likely take the ASU job while the recruits were on the SMU campus
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
IPP, being a fan of the teams on both sides of the Brown situation, and having sources at both that I trust, I can tell you I believe the evidence with regard to it. Feel free to take it or leave it.
And I have no problem that JJ looked for other jobs, took another job, or even tried to take some of his recruits with him to the new job. I only have a problem with the timing of the events, especially considering the deference SMU gave to him when we were hiring him, and the active recruitment of players using SMU resources before the deal was signed--although we don't know if that was him inovlved directly in some way or only some overzealous assitants jumping the gun. (Either way, he is the CEO of the endeavor and is held responsible for his assistants actions in this case.)
Stallion wrote:again Broussard is one of Jones' former players
But do you know if ASU had any contact with Brown before he committed? Also if Brown was leaked information do we know who leaked the info to him? Or are we rushing to judgement that it had to be June or June directed? How can we be sure June had any hand in a leak to Brown and that it was not some over-zealous asst coach wanting to bag his man without June's knowledge?
Stallion wrote:Jones called Dennis Erickson to discuss ASU's 2012 recruiting class on Tuesday Nite.
June Jones informed SMU he was considering the ASU job... I would think SMU knew he would be making calls to ASU & ASU related people. I'm not sure we know the full text of what June discussed with Erickson. What is your source that the reason Jones called Erickson was to discuss recruiting? If I was making a big career change I may like to talk to the guy I was replacing. "Hey I know they fired you, but before that how did you like working for these people?"
huskerpony wrote:(Either way, he is the CEO of the endeavor and is held responsible for his assistants actions in this case.)
I agree huskerpony....but implying June was directing SMU recruits to ASU vs. June has an asst coach without his knowledge make an error in judgement are two pretty different things.
huskerpony wrote:(Either way, he is the CEO of the endeavor and is held responsible for his assistants actions in this case.)
I agree huskerpony....but implying June was directing SMU recruits to ASU vs. June has an asst coach without his knowledge make an error in judgement are two pretty different things.
I understand where you are coming from..but they way I look at it all depends on how you view life.
In a civil trial, the evidence is more likely than not that he did.
Criminal trial, the evidence is not beyond a reasonable doubt.
