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Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:25 pm
by Rebel10
giacfsp wrote:If a recruiting class gets a low rating by the computer geeks who have never seen the guys play and aren't trained as coaches to evaluate talent in the first place, but then the team keeps winning, it speaks to the talent evaluation skills of the real coaches and their coaching ability, and shows the absurdity of most of the ratings, anyway. Yes, everyone can spot the "5-star" superstuds, but if coaches recruit a group of guys nobody wanted and still win, then the recruiting wasn't nearly as bad as the doom-and-gloomers say it was.
So to answer your question, sure ... someone can be fired for just about anything. But if the recruiting ratings cause an AD to fire a coach, even though the coach is successful, then it's the AD who should be fired next.
I guess you were wrong.
Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:27 pm
by Rebel10
smuuth wrote:Poor recruiting will catch up to you eventually. The majority of the offense were still Bennett recruits or committs this past year and the lack of any productive receivers besides Darius is shocking after 4 years with new staff, not to mention lack of QB recruits. Defensive side has done much better but it looks like Jones has not been received well by Texas high school coaches. Line...they got lucky on him and moved him to offense to back up Shawnbrey for blocking situations and lo and behold look what happened. Line wasnt even on the Texas Football magazine two-deep going into his sophomore year!
You were right.
Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:30 pm
by Rebel10
ponyinNC wrote:Honest question.
JJ has been a great coach and taken us to 3 bowls in 3 years. I am grateful for all he and his staff have done for smu. Especially thankful for the CofC.
But our recruiting for 2012 is a huge issue. If/when we lose myers, I would guess we will be ranked in the 80's. There seems to be no intensity or pressur on staff to right the ship. Reinbold is doing European tv. Jj relaxes on the island. We haven't heard a thing about JP yet. Suan seems to be only person doing anything. And I worry/wonder if the coaches even see this as an issue, because it seems they have no one to answer to!
Your recruiting ranking usually mirrors your final ranking. We should be in the 40's after a bowl win and a prett good season. But our recruiting isnt living up to where we should be. So we can expect to be ranked in the freaking 80's in a few years in the big east. If I was a cofc member, I'd want some answers. Now.
Looks like you kind of saw the disaster coming back then.
Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:57 pm
by Nacho
http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2014 ... from-team/can a successful coach be fired for running everyone off?
we could build a team around these guys.
Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:01 pm
by leopold
Thinking the same thing. At this point I'd bring in those nine guys, read them the riot act and thank god they were on campus.
Re: Can a successful coach be fired for poor recruiting?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:47 pm
by ponyinNC
wow, I remember posting that actually.
hate to be right - but not like i was the only one thinking that.