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Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:38 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
Not to enhance a stereotype, but I in general dont trust people with tattoos.... like absurd amount kind especially.... hamilton, pachall just top of my mind, but just in general so many typically are nut cases and need serious help
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:45 pm
by peruna81
SMU_Alumni11 wrote:Not to enhance a stereotype, but I in general dont trust people with tattoos.... like absurd amount kind especially.... hamilton, pachall just top of my mind, but just in general so many typically are nut cases and need serious help
I don't trust clowns. Seriously. But off-topic.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:05 pm
by DiamondM75
solomouse wrote:A very fine program was started at tech,picked up by the horns and is now starting to work on the smu campus....a program designed to get the student into a bona fide rehab program,protect his academic efforts and move on....the program has been followed in and at a number of other univertities and hopefully,tcu will take a look at its role,the same as many employers,lawfirms,hospitals ....even the military... Yhis young man needs professional help as well as legal assistance..
After they beat us last Saturday, I wouldn't help them with anything. After all we have done for them and for them to come into our house a beat us, we won't provide them any help or advice. Not now, not ever.
Wait - - - - we're better than that. Never mind.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:48 pm
by ponyboy
peruna81 wrote:I am a pastor. That doesn't make me an expert on anything, just a victim of mostly absurd things. But it does afford me the chance to see folks/families/companies/athletes ( at times) deal with addictions.
IMO, there will be no change in this young man's life by others imposing 'programs' for him to attend as a form of mandatory or punitive transformation. It will be treated by the addict as what it is...a necessary hoop to jump through to chase the next high.
The tipping point is only known and valued by the addict himself (aka 'how far down must I fall?'). What those in positions of leadership and responsibility MUST do is begin to remove the tools and access to the secondary components of the addiction (football team, athletic system access, privilege, etc). Some argue that this will force a further downward spiral by removing the 'encouraging' parts of the system. I would argue that this brings a hastening of the aforementioned 'tipping point' of change.
What we can do, regrdless of our affiliation and allegiances to SMU or TCU, is pray that the change comes radically fast, and it will be by Pachall's own request
Great post. Thank you.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:24 pm
by Water Pony
peruna81 wrote:I am a pastor. That doesn't make me an expert on anything, just a victim of mostly absurd things. But it does afford me the chance to see folks/families/companies/athletes ( at times) deal with addictions.
IMO, there will be no change in this young man's life by others imposing 'programs' for him to attend as a form of mandatory or punitive transformation. It will be treated by the addict as what it is...a necessary hoop to jump through to chase the next high.
The tipping point is only known and valued by the addict himself (aka 'how far down must I fall?'). What those in positions of leadership and responsibility MUST do is begin to remove the tools and access to the secondary components of the addiction (football team, athletic system access, privilege, etc). Some argue that this will force a further downward spiral by removing the 'encouraging' parts of the system. I would argue that this brings a hastening of the aforementioned 'tipping point' of change.
What we can do, regrdless of our affiliation and allegiances to SMU or TCU, is pray that the change comes radically fast, and it will be by Pachall's own request
I agree. One of the best quote I have heard is from Gordon Livingston, MD, who says "The major advantage of illness is that it provides relief from responsibility."
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:11 pm
by Nacho
i pray that fatterson signs with arkansas before any more arrests are made.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:15 pm
by White Helmet
SMU_Alumni11 wrote:Not to enhance a stereotype, but I in general dont trust people with tattoos.... like absurd amount kind especially.... hamilton, pachall just top of my mind, but just in general so many typically are nut cases and need serious help
You're an idiot.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:05 pm
by lwjr
It is being reported in the Star Telegram that Casey will be on the sidelines with the team but he is suspended from competition. This is according to Mac Engel's blog
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:25 pm
by Rebel10
lwjr wrote:It is being reported in the Star Telegram that Casey will be on the sidelines with the team but he is suspended from competition. This is according to Mac Engel's blog
Patterson also said on reference to Pachall - "Is it one game, is it the rest of the season? I don't know what that answer is."
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:36 pm
by Nacho
Rebel10 wrote:lwjr wrote:It is being reported in the Star Telegram that Casey will be on the sidelines with the team but he is suspended from competition. This is according to Mac Engel's blog
Patterson also said on reference to Pachall - "Is it one game, is it the rest of the season? I don't know what that answer is."
if they lose to iowa st, it is one game.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:41 pm
by CalallenStang
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:feel bad for the kid....but why couldn't this have happened a week earlier?
We stopped their offense. That wasn't the problem. The problem was not scoring from the 1
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:06 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
CalallenStang wrote:We stopped their offense.
DUI Pachall did throw two touchdown passes, but yeah you're pretty much right.
We blew our chances to beat them back to back!
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:08 pm
by CalallenStang
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:CalallenStang wrote:We stopped their offense.
DUI Pachall did throw two touchdown passes, but yeah you're pretty much right.
We blew our chances to beat them back to back!
Yep. And if you remember right they had a short field on those occasions that he was able to score TDs.
Tom Mason's defense plays well against TCU and other non-hurry up teams (only against the hurry up do we struggle). The problem is the offense.
Also, wanted to add in that I hope that Pachall gets the help he obviously needs.
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:12 pm
by SMUer
I hear aluminum foil messes with breathilizer readings...he may want to fight it
Re: TCU's Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:15 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
CalallenStang wrote:Also, wanted to add in that I hope that Pachall gets the help he obviously needs.
True...but I'm afraid football is more important in our society.
I find it hard to believe Fatterson is bold enough to allow him on the sidelines the same week the kid gets a DUI....good gosh what message does that send.....but hey the Penn State fiasco convinced me....no matter what....the show is gonna go on!