June and His Presence in Recruiting

[SoCal_Pony]

agree with above 2 posts.

I would also add the level of acceptance on PFs at all these D-i-t-R players is quite remarkable.

[sbsmith]

agree with above 2 posts.

I would also add the level of acceptance on PFs at all these D-i-t-R players is quite remarkable.

Those are the same people that think SMU is a relevant program and that June should be our coach forever.

[MV pony]

I view winning as a team effort. The team being top management (Turner), middle management (Jones) and lower management (the other coaches). Until top management (Turner) makes winning a high priority, SMU doesn't stand a chance to compete at a higher level. And based on what I've heard Turner saying over the past month, a winning football team is still not a high priority for him. Sadly, he controls the money and makes the key decisions. It's sad SMU can't or won't use some of its endowment money to create a winning team that would pay big dividends. Just my 2 cents.

[Water Pony]

I view winning as a team effort. The team being top management (Turner), middle management (Jones) and lower management (the other coaches). Until top management (Turner) makes winning a high priority, SMU doesn't stand a chance to compete at a higher level. And based on what I've heard Turner saying over the past month, a winning football team is still not a high priority for him. Sadly, he controls the money and makes the key decisions. It's sad SMU can't or won't use some of its endowment money to create a winning team that would pay big dividends. Just my 2 cents.

This line of thinking is getting tiresome. Imagining Turner as "the obstacle" is silly and counterproductive. Anonymous and unsubstantiated claims to this effect would be funny, if not strange. I can't imagine the above opinion holds such water at all.

SMU and Turner can always be more effective (and must be), but to question his intentions or commitment is not just wide of the market, but curious as to logic of such a position.

MV, welcome to the board but give us some credit for understanding all of our challenges vs. a conspiracy theory. And, please do not hesitate to write a check to SMU Athletics, if money is our only obstacle.

[Stallion]

You said absolutely nothing No one has been more critical than me but in the last decade or so SMU under Turner's leadership SMU has made these essential 20 changes in a strong attempt to become competitive in Football. June needs to step up and restructure his coaching staff, completely reorganize his recruiting department, hirer younger more aggressive assistants and start earning the other half of his substantial paycheck

Ford Stadium
BB Practice facility
Moody Renovation
Big East membership
The Boulevard/Revenue Stream
hiring June Jones
hiring Larry Brown
hiring expanded BB Support Staff
authorizing Circle of Champion
Late Qualifiers
Low qualifiers
JUCO Transfers
Prep school Transfers
Division 1A Transfers
Summer Enrollment of First year Football players
College of Education
Sports Management Degree
Physiology Degree
New Accounting Procedure in Calculating Athletic department debt

Some of us have actually been around when SMU had none of these iniatives with the program floundering with no future and Turner deserves substantial credit for approving these changes

[MV pony]

I do write a big check to the Mustang Club every year even though I can't use benefits of my level. But here's the deal. My wallet opens wider for winners. And I'd love to move up.

As for the conspiracy theory--If Turner wants a winning football team he'll have one. It will start with the hiring of coaches that can bring SMU football to the next level. Great players will get into school. [deleted] flows down. He just needs to demand it.

[Mexmustang]

"This line of thinking is getting tiresome. Imagining Turner as "the obstacle" is silly and counterproductive. Anonymous and unsubstantiated claims to this effect would be funny, if not strange. I can't imagine the above opinion holds such water at all."
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So sorry to burst your bubble--18 years, not one championship in football or basketball in whatever alphabet league we play in.

13 years of impossible athletic admissions standards--standards he proposed and approved as head of the Knight Commission that he wouldn't let appy to his own school. It cost nothing, nada, not a thing, to have let our coaches be competitive in admissions. It was only after June negotiated his package that things changed.

I am sorry that you don't believe he has been playing "bait and switch" with us for a long time. He still has three promises that he made to those of us that chose to take it on directly with him. When Orsini was fired he stopped giving us monthly updates on his promises. We still haven't the athletic friendly major as promised or the IPF as promised or deflowering of the admissions committee, as promised.

While doing alot for SMU, including building his own monument (a standing college president), TCU has accomplished more in terms of academic growth, endowment growth and buildings--startling well behind SMU in both academics and athletics--and they still rebuilt their athletics and were rewarded with an invitation into the Big 12.

If you bothered to check with any major conference, Turner is not someone they respect or trust. Sorry to break it to you, but SMU will left out in the cold until he retires.

[CalallenStang]

Turner isn't the reason we lost to Tulane in football this year.

[Grant Carter]

"This line of thinking is getting tiresome. Imagining Turner as "the obstacle" is silly and counterproductive. Anonymous and unsubstantiated claims to this effect would be funny, if not strange. I can't imagine the above opinion holds such water at all."
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So sorry to burst your bubble--18 years, not one championship in football or basketball in whatever alphabet league we play in.

13 years of impossible athletic admissions standards--standards he proposed and approved as head of the Knight Commission that he wouldn't let appy to his own school. It cost nothing, nada, not a thing, to have let our coaches be competitive in admissions. It was only after June negotiated his package that things changed.

I am sorry that you don't believe he has been playing "bait and switch" with us for a long time. He still has three promises that he made to those of us that chose to take it on directly with him. When Orsini was fired he stopped giving us monthly updates on his promises. We still haven't the athletic friendly major as promised or the IPF as promised or deflowering of the admissions committee, as promised.

While doing alot for SMU, including building his own monument (a standing college president), TCU has accomplished more in terms of academic growth, endowment growth and buildings--startling well behind SMU in both academics and athletics--and they still rebuilt their athletics and were rewarded with an invitation into the Big 12.

If you bothered to check with any major conference, Turner is not someone they respect or trust. Sorry to break it to you, but SMU will left out in the cold until he retires.

Do you still stand by your assertion that Turner is the only big east president who has a personal relationship with the Tulane president and the only one who could have wanted them to join?