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Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close. TCU has been adding national spotlight games in recent years like Clemson, BYU and LSU

Tech ducked em but pretty sure BU didn't.

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close. TCU has been ADDING last minute national spotlight games in recent years like Clemson, BYU and LSU

Ohio state also in 5-6 yrs.

What an embarrassing development!

Comparing apples to apples, when TCU was coming back from the dead:

99: Ariz, NW, Ark St (1-2) 8-4
00: NW, Ark St, Navy (3-0) 10-2
01: SMU, Neb, North Texas, NW St (2-2) 6-6
02: NW, SMU, North Texas (3-0) 10-2
03: Vandy, Arizona, Navy, SMU (4-0) 11-2
04: NW, SMU, TT (2-1) 5-6
05: OU, SMU, Army (2-1) 11-1
06: Baylot, TT, UC Davis, Army (4-0) 11-2
07: Baylor, Texas, SMU, Stanford. (3-1) 8 -5


So, in year 9 of the turnaround, they had 3 strong non-conference games scheduled. They had us and another weak team scheduled non-conference every single year before that.

The way you raise your profile around the country is to win 8-10 games consistently, regardless of who you play. It is incredibly difficult to get there if you lose two non-conference games. Once you win, then people start caring about who you beat. But you have to win first. If you have to play the sisters of the poor 4 times non-conference in order to have a 10 win season, then that is what you do until you win 10 consistently. Then you up the level of competition. You don't get there by scheduling 4 BCS programs non-conference. Not even TCU does that.

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close.

So do we know for a fact that SMU made the decision or is it possible that Baylor dropped SMU and thus it is a similar situation to what tcu dealt with? Not saying Baylor is ducking SMU, but if they dropped SMU then we are as blameless in the situation as tcu when they had to schedule those teams you excused them for.

Still waiting to hear whose decision it was.

mustangxc wrote:What an embarrassing development!

not more embarrassing than what would have happened on the field vs. baylor.

JasonB wrote:05: OU, SMU, Army (2-1) 11-1

Not to minimize your point, because I agree to a point but TCU should've scheduled a weak OOC opponent instead of the mighty Mustangs in '05. Could've finished undefeated and went to a BCS game.

Grant Carter wrote:

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close.

So do we know for a fact that SMU made the decision or is it possible that Baylor dropped SMU and thus it is a similar situation to what tcu dealt with? Not saying Baylor is ducking SMU, but if they dropped SMU then we are as blameless in the situation as tcu when they had to schedule those teams you excused them for.

Still waiting to hear whose decision it was.

I have not seen Baylor's schedule but maybe they are trying to add another home game for 2013, at least I hope that is the case.

lwjr wrote:

Grant Carter wrote:

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close.

So do we know for a fact that SMU made the decision or is it possible that Baylor dropped SMU and thus it is a similar situation to what tcu dealt with? Not saying Baylor is ducking SMU, but if they dropped SMU then we are as blameless in the situation as tcu when they had to schedule those teams you excused them for.

Still waiting to hear whose decision it was.

I have not seen Baylor's schedule but maybe they are trying to add another home game for 2013, at least I hope that is the case.

Buffalo
ULM
WVU
Texas
OU
ISU

That's our 2013 home slate.

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close. TCU has been ADDING last minute national spotlight games in recent years like Clemson, BYU, Oregon St and LSU

No councelor, I don't follow it as close as you, I openly admit that. Just like I don't follow which 17 year-old girls decide to go to SMU as close as you.

Chill out, dude, nobody insulted your family. I'll assume your right and I'm wrong on that subject.

But whatever, this strategy worked for Bill Snyder - play patsies in non-con games - maybe that's JJ's plan. But yeah, I'd like to see us play Baylor a lot more, too.

EDIT: Buffalo and ULM ain't Notre Dame and Bama, though.

This is chicken [deleted] in my opinion. Beating Montana State does nothing for our program. If we want respect we've gotta go out and earn it by beating teams people have actually heard of. Pony down

Step one win ten games. Step two win ten games against good opponents. It really is that simple. I can guarantee you that we tried to get out of a&m, and didn't because of the money, and then dumped Baylor because they will be better than tech next year.

I don't care who we beat. I want to see us win 8 to 10 games and then I will worry about the quality of opponent. Until we can beat Tulane and rice every year we shouldn't be complaining about the quality of the schedule.

JasonB wrote:Step one win ten games. Step two win ten games against good opponents. It really is that simple. I can guarantee you that we tried to get out of a&m, and didn't because of the money, and then dumped Baylor because they will be better than tech next year.

I don't care who we beat. I want to see us win 8 to 10 games and then I will worry about the quality of opponent. Until we can beat Tulane and rice every year we shouldn't be complaining about the quality of the schedule.

We're never going to win 10 games as long as June keeps sending the message that we can't compete with Baylor.

Grant Carter wrote:

Stallion wrote:and all of those last minute patsy games were scheduled at the last minute when teams like Tech (2 years in a row) and Baylor were attempting to duck TCU. Last year TCU had to reschedule because of moving to Big 12. TCU damn sure didn't drop any Texas BCS school to duck anybody and if you think they did-you don't know what you're talking about because I followed this pretty damn close.

So do we know for a fact that SMU made the decision or is it possible that Baylor dropped SMU and thus it is a similar situation to what tcu dealt with? Not saying Baylor is ducking SMU, but if they dropped SMU then we are as blameless in the situation as tcu when they had to schedule those teams you excused them for.

Still waiting to hear whose decision it was.

I was told that the decision was mutual per a member of the BU coaching staff.

SMU2007 wrote:

mustangxc wrote:What an embarrassing development!

not more embarrassing than what would have happened on the field vs. baylor.

You're a sad excuse for a fan and one of the biggest examples of the loser mentality I've come across in a while.