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LHS81 wrote:Most definitely a PIPEDREAM. But if the Steelers keep staying winless, and the Rooney family decides to make a mid-season change. Wouldn't mind Mike Tomlin. Although, my perception sees Mike as an NFL "lifer." Mike will probably take the Washington Redskins job, after "lil Danny" chitcans Mike Shanahan

Yea I guess most SMU fans "wouldn't mind" Mike Tomlin. Maybe we can get Saban to be a coordinator or something.

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PlanoStang wrote:
The last SMU coach who has a better record overall without being put on NCAA probation is
Matty Bell from the 40s.

Madison "Matty" Bell 1945–1949 32-16-5

Harvey “Rusty” Russell 1950–1952 13-15-2

Chalmer “Woody” Woodard 1953–1956 19-20-1

William "Bill" Meek 1957–1961 17-29-4

Hayden Fry 1962–1972 49-66-1

Dave Smith 1973–1975 16-15-2 NCAA probation pay for play

Ron Meyer 1976–1981 34-32-1 NCAA probation pay for play

Bobby Collins 1982–1986 43-14-1 NCAA death penalty a payroll to meet

Forrest Gregg 1989–1990 3-19-0

Tom Rossley 1991–1996 15-48-3

Mike Cavan 1997–2001 22-34-0

Phil Bennett 2002–2007 18-52-0

June Jones 2008–Present 32-37-0

What are the odds that SUPERCOACH exists, and why would he want to come to SMU

Probably less than the GREAT PUMPKIN from Peanuts.

Apparently someone didn't teach you math, but 13-15-2 & 19-20-1 are both > than 32-37, so it is not Matty Bell from the '40's as you stated above.

Of course you can eliminate the post-DP coaches, no one will argue that point. Now you are left with Bill Meek & Hayden Fry. I cannot speak to Meek, but Hayden Fry took us to the Sun Bowl, Bluebonnet Bowl (win over OU was arguably a Top 5 historic win for SMU) and a Cotton Bowl. He also had a 7-4 team that did not go bowling because back in the day bowl games meant something. Just as important, his teams were always competitive, even in defeat. I remember SMU's last game for Hayden, they played their hearts out for that man and if memory serves me correctly, their opponent TCU did not cross the 50 yard line until the 2nd half.

So yes, by your criteria I will concede JJ > Bill Meek, but before we totally dismiss Meek, understand he was here for 5 years and by today's criteria (.500 gets you a bowl game) would have taken SMU to 2 bowl games and came oh so close to a 3rd (4-5-1 season when we defeated UT & Ark).

SMU2007 wrote:

LHS81 wrote:Most definitely a PIPEDREAM. But if the Steelers keep staying winless, and the Rooney family decides to make a mid-season change. Wouldn't mind Mike Tomlin. Although, my perception sees Mike as an NFL "lifer." Mike will probably take the Washington Redskins job, after "lil Danny" chitcans Mike Shanahan

Yea I guess most SMU fans "wouldn't mind" Mike Tomlin. Maybe we can get Saban to be a coordinator or something.

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PlanoStang wrote: You're just a paid shill on here to get old f*rts like me agitated to post more emoticons on here
now that its paid for by ads

That's gotta be some big coin in the PF coffers. Do I get a cut of the profit?

PonyTime wrote:This is a synopsis from all of the threads below:

[b]Must be under 50 years old in order to relate to recruits.

what is all this about age? why the hell does this matter?

Tom Osbourne. Anybody remember him? was he not pushing his mid 60's after winning his last
national championship ? And how old is Saban? Spurrier?

Reminds me of the stupid quote Earl Campbell made regarding Mac's age. Plenty of reasons to can mac. Age is not one of them.

Me

So, we've had 3 coaches with overall winning records?

The perfect coach for SMU is the coach that this administration will not hire.

Letting Kingsbury go to Tech was the biggest mistake we've made in the last 6 years

SMU404 wrote:Letting Kingsbury go to Tech was the biggest mistake we've made in the last 6 years

+1,000

PonyTime wrote:This is a synopsis from all of the threads below:

Must be under 50 years old in order to relate to recruits.
Must embrace Peruna as the only mascot.
Must wear red and/or blue to games.
Must hold a weekly show/event to interact with fans.
Must show emotion on sideline during games.
Must return to blue jerseys.

Dude, he can be 100 and wear a dress while on riding Liberty and Justice hopped up on Xanex if we can win the AAC and a BCS bowl.

And I am being literal.

SMU404 wrote:Letting Kingsbury go to Tech was the biggest mistake we've made in the last 6 years

Agreed. Someone like that is our best option IMO. Young, passionate, Texas connections, unproven commodity.

As a side note, I find it hilarious that all the "old guys" on here focus solely on the mention of wanting a coach under 50.

Put away the broad brush. I do not have a problem with a coach under 50 or over 50. Or even one that is 50. I want one that can coach and can put together an energetic staff. The head coach does not go out recruiting very often so it is most important that the staff be able to.

But it seems all the youngsters on this site think we could have gotten Kingsbury when even had we he would have jumped to Tech in a minute. So then let's get the Michigan State coach. No reason he would not want to be at SMU. Better yet, let's get James Franklin. He should be ready to get out of that pesky SEC for the AAC. I think there is enough pipedreaming to go around without picking on we poor, inexperienced, know nothing old guys.