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Pug - Aren't you the guy that started a thread full of BS and got smacked back down by every single poster after that? Ah yes, I thought that was you.

Pugilistic Pony wrote:

Pug - Aren't you the guy that started a thread full of BS and got smacked back down by every single poster after that? Ah yes, I thought that was you.

Whatever. Y'all just keep patting each other on the back and thinking everything is going to be fine after June gets canned. That's the ticket.

P.S. You don't humiliate me with your comments. I've been an SMU football fan for 46 years; I've acquired immunity to humiliation.

Say, Pug. How much did Texas Tech dominate the SWC?

Should they step back, reassess their goals?

Pugilistic Pony wrote: SMU has never been a traditional, consistent football power.

Pugilistic Pony wrote: If Texas Tech were a relatively small, private school, were not in a P5 conference, had suffered the DP, had an apparently tiny fanbase, had to compete for attention with professional sports and other random entertainment, and had wandered in the collegiate-football desert for over twenty years, I would say, yes, it should probably reassess its goals, regardless of its W-L record in the old SWC.

redpony wrote:

Pugilistic Pony wrote: If Texas Tech were a relatively small, private school, were not in a P5 conference, had suffered the DP, had an apparently tiny fanbase, had to compete for attention with professional sports and other random entertainment, and had wandered in the collegiate-football desert for over twenty years, I would say, yes, it should probably reassess its goals, regardless of its W-L record in the old SWC.

This argument about not being a P5 school, not having resources etc.etc. is so old and stale. What would you think if your attorney told you that he lost your case because the other attorneys firm was a lot bigger and had more resources? What if you had to tell your business clients that you are sorry that your product is not as good as the competition because they are a lot bigger and have more design engineers? What a crock. You suck it up and compete or go home. If you know you can't run with the big dogs don't get off of the effin porch.

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Pugilistic Pony wrote:Here is SMU's all-time bowl record:

Season Year Bowl Game Opponent W/L PF PA
1924 1925 Dixie Classic West Virginia Wesleyan L 7 9
1935 1936 Rose Bowl Stanford L 0 7
1947 1948 Cotton Bowl Classic Penn State T 13 13
1948 1949 Cotton Bowl Classic Oregon W 21 13
1963 1963 Sun Bowl Oregon L 14 21
1966 1966 Cotton Bowl Classic Georgia L 9 24
1968 1968 Bluebonnet Bowl Oklahoma W 28 27
1980 1980 Holiday Bowl BYU L 45 46
1982 1983 Cotton Bowl Classic Pittsburgh W 7 3
1983 1983 Sun Bowl Alabama L 7 28
1984 1984 Aloha Bowl Notre Dame W 27 20
2009 2009 Hawaiʻi Bowl Nevada W 45 10
2010 2010 Armed Forces Bowl Army L 14 16
2011 2012 BBVA Compass Bowl Pittsburgh W 28 6
2012 2012 Hawaiʻi Bowl Fresno State W 43 10


If my math is correct, 26.67% of SMU's bowl appearances have been under June Jones! Now, remind me again about what a big, bad football power SMU has been, historically speaking. I just don't see it.

My point is that some people's present-day expectations for SMU football seem delusional to me, given our historical record in football. As further evidence, check out our all-time records against our former SWC foes. Where are all these alleged "glory days"? Occasionally, we had a great team, and now and then, we pulled a big upset (or came close). SMU has never been a traditional, consistent football power.

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