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Otter you've identified a problem that we all recognize but you haven't proposed one solution. Many here have noted the attendance problems that this school has experienced even when we were winning. If you are only going to [deleted] about the problem and offer no significant suggestions, please stop posting. At this point, you are adding nothing to the board.

Nobody in SMU Athletics seems to care, so why would I waste my time? I'm just tired of going to games in virtually empty Ford and Moody. We spend alot of $$ on a lot of things, but we look bush league and appear irrelevant when the bleachers are so empty. The perception that we are not relevant hurts our recruiting, sponsorship sales efforts and our SMU brand overall. When this is juxtiposed with the relative success of the team, the effect is even more damaging.

Everyone invites one friend and has the extra ticket problem solved. Dubs put you clothes back on Otter get a friend.

Mestengo wrote:Everyone invites one friend and has the extra ticket problem solved. Dubs put you clothes back on Otter get a friend.

Where is the fun in that? I'm actually getting ready to meet a client so on this one occasion I will clothe myself.

Lol

Otter wrote:And why would I, or anyone else, offer a plan or even any suggestions to Orsini when he has made it clear that he doesn't want to put any resources into building a ticket sales infrastructure(which for you who don't understand the difference), is not the same as spending $$$ on marketing. I persnally know people who have offered to put together a strategic marketing and promotion, and ticket plan for Orsini only to be told that it wasn't a priority.

Lay your source on the line. What you're saying is baseless (again). (Wuba - where are you? You are the source enforcer.)

Orsini began his career in athletics administration in 1981 as Assistant Business Manager and Ticket Manager at Notre Dame, and remained in that capacity for three years until leaving to join the Dallas Cowboys as Ticket Manager in 1984. His background is ticket sales.

I've heard from his mouth and others in the administration that it is a priority. You have nothing to base this on except you heard from someone you won't name.

2ndandlong: Thanks so much for this ... I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Orsini began his career in athletics administration in 1981 as Assistant Business Manager and Ticket Manager at Notre Dame, and remained in that capacity for three years until leaving to join the Dallas Cowboys as Ticket Manager in 1984. His background is ticket sales.

So his experience was "MANAGING" ticket sales for Notre Dame football and the Dallas Cowboys? These must have been very difficult jobs considering the lack of interest and demand for tickets for those places. The only thing missing on his resume is Duke basketball. What a track record!!!


This only reinforces the point I've been making all along. He's never actually had to "SELL" a ticket -- EVER. He must think that SMU is like Notre Dame or the Cowboys and that you need only to open the gates and the fans will coming crashing through.

adult men do not use emoticons or whatever you call them. They are for 13 year old girls.

Alright already Otter. Just go start the FireOrsini.com website and fling your poo over there. This is tiring and boring.

PK wrote:

ericdickerson4life wrote:Why don't we have a marketing department like Texas? They are everywhere and never have attendance issues. They sell out games against Rice, why can't we?

About half the population of Austin is made up of UT grads or wannabes and UT is Austins "pro" team. They will fill up the stadium regardless who they play.

I don't intend to sound elitist, but as a 20 year Austinite, I can tell you that many of the people who fill the UT stadium, wear orange all week, and yell the loudest, are not the types we would want at Ford. Their association with the team or with any institution of higher learning is obscure. There are a ton of alcohol related arrests in and around the stadium on game day and way too much boorish and loutish behavior. And I'm not talking about good natured rowdiness.

Otter wrote:2ndandlong: Thanks so much for this ... I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Orsini began his career in athletics administration in 1981 as Assistant Business Manager and Ticket Manager at Notre Dame, and remained in that capacity for three years until leaving to join the Dallas Cowboys as Ticket Manager in 1984. His background is ticket sales.

So his experience was "MANAGING" ticket sales for Notre Dame football and the Dallas Cowboys? These must have been very difficult jobs considering the lack of interest and demand for tickets for those places. The only thing missing on his resume is Duke basketball. What a track record!!!


This only reinforces the point I've been making all along. He's never actually had to "SELL" a ticket -- EVER. He must think that SMU is like Notre Dame or the Cowboys and that you need only to open the gates and the fans will coming crashing through.

Cowboys in the 80's? Tickets didn't sell themselves. You are [deleted].

Yawn

For a topic that seems to be of no interest to many of you, there sure is alot of responses and views.

2ndandlong - Steve O's role in the ticket department at his former job was no doubt counting the money as it came in - not in generating any incremental revenue. His track record here speaks for itself.

Mestengo yawns, so he is either getting sleepy at dinnertime or he works for Orsini, and we know that the notion of connection to a fan base bores those folks to tears.

Otter, when was this so called ticket plan brought to Orsini? Where do you expect Orsini to find this money for ticket sales /marketing?

How much money was spent on "June Cometh" marketing in 2008 when June got here? At that point there was a somewhat visual PR campaign but being 1-11 didn't help at all.

I will agree that the full cheerleaders, band, and the two horses could have stayed home for the bowl game in '09. Waste of money.

We all want solutions to this obviously.

Out of our supposedly 40,000 alums in the area, I would guess that less than 1/2 have been to games in a while.

I've heard from his mouth and others in the administration that it is a priority. (2ndandlong on Orsini's commitment to ticket sales)



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