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redpony wrote:This does not bode well for us and for the AAC. Has anybody from the b12 spoken with our admin to see if we are interested? I doubt it.

I would imagine only if they needed directions to DFW to travel to other cities.

mrydel- we can always count on you for some of your arky-isms.

Is there anyway SMU pulls some magic and gets us into the Big12?

SMU1523 wrote:Is there anyway SMU pulls some magic and gets us into the Big12?

Nope, let that dream die.

SMU1523 wrote:Is there anyway SMU pulls some magic and gets us into the Big12?

Zero chance, but it's not because we wouldn't be a good conference mate, it's we add zero additional TV sets. Our slam dunk best bet will be a ACC conference network that wants Dallas (see Rutgers).

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/07/20/4018408/decock-acc-tv-network-makes-sense.html

I think the B12 has agreed to no more Texas teams...and even if they did take 1 , it would be pressured to take UH.

The crappy part is if schools like Memphis, Tulane somehow get into the B12. I can see BYU, Cincy, even the florida schools...but Tulane? Our fellow AAC schools threw a fit when Tulane was invited to our little league!

ponyinNC wrote:I think the B12 has agreed to no more Texas teams...and even if they did take 1 , it would be pressured to take UH.

The crappy part is if schools like Memphis, Tulane somehow get into the B12. I can see BYU, Cincy, even the florida schools...but Tulane? Our fellow AAC schools threw a fit when Tulane was invited to our little league!

Tulane's best chance at getting into a P5 conference is to dig up the paperwork from when they left the SEC and hope they can find some crucial typo or a page missing a signature.

Comet wrote:

SMU1523 wrote:Is there anyway SMU pulls some magic and gets us into the Big12?

Nope, let that dream die.

Yes, it is dying a slow painful death...

We need to look at the other conferences for future OOC and dump the big 12 stock along with our hopes. They are doomed as a conference anyways, so why would we want to go in where we are not wanted and why not explore other options?

We should play the Big 12 teams as much as possible with a focus on beating them. That is what will make people care about us and make SMU relevant again.

No one in Texas gives any more of a [deleted] if we beat Washington State, Duke, or Purdue than UTEP or Tulane.

Convince yourselves all you want that we need to do all sorts of things...until we win and draw consistent crowds it's like 3 part-timers at Wal-Mart arguing over what they need to do to get voted onto the company's board of directors.....they might have some ideas, but come on, who cares, it's pointless.

Skins on the wall matter....let's get some of those and then put our bigger plans to work.

03Mustang wrote:We should play the Big 12 teams as much as possible with a focus on beating them. That is what will make people care about us and make SMU relevant again.

No one in Texas gives any more of a [deleted] if we beat Washington State, Duke, or Purdue than UTEP or Tulane.

Convince yourselves all you want that we need to do all sorts of things...until we win and draw consistent crowds it's like 3 part-timers at Wal-Mart arguing over what they need to do to get voted onto the company's board of directors.....they might have some ideas, but come on, who cares, it's pointless.

Skins on the wall matter....let's get some of those and then put our bigger plans to work.

We have been doing that for 30 years and look where we are. The Big 12 does not want us. We get no benefit from playing them. Build our own fanbase and stop focusing on what the other team will bring. We are in rebuilding mode, let's change everything we do. Otherwise, we are the definition of insane.

We play 0 big 12 schools in basketball, and our fans come to watch our team play. Do the same in Football. And you are wrong, people will care if we beat them because they are Power 5 teams.

03Mustang wrote:No one in Texas gives any more of a [deleted] if we beat Washington State, Duke, or Purdue than UTEP or Tulane.

True

skins on the wall matter unless you're rutgers, maryland, tulane, or utah. but in theory, it should help.

floridianstang wrote:

03Mustang wrote:We should play the Big 12 teams as much as possible with a focus on beating them. That is what will make people care about us and make SMU relevant again.

No one in Texas gives any more of a [deleted] if we beat Washington State, Duke, or Purdue than UTEP or Tulane.

Convince yourselves all you want that we need to do all sorts of things...until we win and draw consistent crowds it's like 3 part-timers at Wal-Mart arguing over what they need to do to get voted onto the company's board of directors.....they might have some ideas, but come on, who cares, it's pointless.

Skins on the wall matter....let's get some of those and then put our bigger plans to work.

We have been doing that for 30 years and look where we are. The Big 12 does not want us. We get no benefit from playing them. Build our own fanbase and stop focusing on what the other team will bring. We are in rebuilding mode, let's change everything we do. Otherwise, we are the definition of insane.

We play 0 big 12 schools in basketball, and our fans come to watch our team play. Do the same in Football. And you are wrong, people will care if we beat them because they are Power 5 teams.

You missed a key phrase here, floridianstang. Playing them does us no good because we have continuously soiled ourselves when we line up to play them. Playing relevant teams isn't enough; you have to beat them or at least make them competitive games. I like the idea of bringing in P5 teams from other conferences, but we can't get our asses handed to us every time we play them. That's how you attract fans that might show up more than once.

did you forget that floridianstand=b12=fhtp?