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Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:57 pm
by CalallenStang
RednBlue11 wrote:CalallenStang wrote:RednBlue11 wrote:just today there have been 28 earth quakes in the lower 48 of a magnitude ranging from 2.5-4.5
Wonderful, but not relevant
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simply pointing out that the EQ's that are happening around the intersection of 114 and 183 are not particularly unusual, there was one earlier in Snyder, tx and also several in Oklahoma, i'd say a little more than half have been all over california.
They are unusual in that they are happening in Dallas and you can feel them. Oklahoma is irrelevant in everything.
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Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:03 pm
by RednBlue11
$100 they happen all the time you're just feeling them cuz they happen to be greater than a 3.0...anyway, NE Irving is the epicenter, the old bones of Texas Stadium are rattling!
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:13 pm
by skyscraper
I've lived in Dallas all of my life, more than 25 years, and never felt an earthquake until today. Never even heard of multiple quakes happening here until the past two years with everything that was going on in Azle and now Irving.
It's unusual and deserves to be investigated, not dismissed. Things like this don't happen here.
I don't know what the causes are, but I'd like to find out.
Would be an interesting time to be an SMU researcher right now, that's for sure. Curious to see what they discover.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:19 pm
by CalallenStang
RednBlue11 wrote:$100 they happen all the time you're just feeling them cuz they happen to be greater than a 3.0...anyway, NE Irving is the epicenter, the old bones of Texas Stadium are rattling!
Yes, I know that. How dumb do you think I am?
THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE FEELING THEM.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:05 pm
by Treadway21
JasonB wrote:gostangs wrote:environmental loonies will have to think of some other reason to be against fracking - these are not from fracking. closest gas drilling has been to Dallas is DFW - and i am 90% sure they are not drilling or fracking there currently.
And i definitely felt this one - first one i have ever felt. Pretty big jolt.
Dunno if it is fracking or not, but certainly is a recent phenomenon.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... micity.phpOne could argue that there is some change in the local environment that is causing it, and although it could be wrong, people are going to naturally deduce fracking because of its use in other environments where earthquakes started happening suddenly. At some point you have to try and connect dots... The Balcones Fault, which the irving earthquakes are associated with, could have potentially become active after 15 million years of being dormant, but I would say environmental changes have a higher probability chance of being the cause.
Admittedly, I don't know as much about this stuff as I probably should. Minor earthquakes don't bother me that much, and are probably not worth avoiding at the cost of having a higher price of gas. I have no idea if there is a bigger risk from earthquakes, or contaminating the water supply though injection of waste water, or no risk at all.
What I would suggest is that the same people who said there is no such thing as climate change now insist that there is no danger from fracking. So I kind of don't trust them that much. I'm more than happy to encourage them to invest in buying property in Venice since they are so convinced climate change isn't happening and it isn't rapid.
Wonder if your science predictions are as good as your football predictions.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:29 pm
by couch 'em
SMU 86 wrote:Any fault line in the DFW area that has been disrupted by drilling or whatever can cause these. Just need to see how many faults are in the DFW area.
The old Texas stadium is right on top of the Balcones Fault, which runs from south texas, roughly up I35 through Irving and then splinters into Oklahoma and Arkansas. We are on top of what was once a large mountain range, the vestiges of which you can see in AR and OK.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcones_Fault
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:33 pm
by Puckhead48E
Football season obviously needs to start quick, or at least signing day, because far too many have too much time on their hands searching wikipedia for the geological history of north Texas!
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:42 pm
by LA_Mustang
Puckhead48E wrote:Football season obviously needs to start quick, or at least signing day, because far too many have too much time on their hands searching wikipedia for the geological history of north Texas!
Why? We're right in the middle of basketball season, it gets no better than that. It's the most entertaining time of the sports year, but earthquakes in Dallas kinda trumps everything.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:22 am
by vielsiehorsepower
skyscraper wrote:I've lived in Dallas all of my life, more than 25 years, and never felt an earthquake until today. Never even heard of multiple quakes happening here until the past two years with everything that was going on in Azle and now Irving.
It's unusual and deserves to be investigated, not dismissed. Things like this don't happen here.
I don't know what the causes are, but I'd like to find out.
Would be an interesting time to be an SMU researcher right now, that's for sure. Curious to see what they discover.
Sounds like we're about the same age and I agree with this statement entirely. Unless some older gents can refer me to some frequent fault line action in the area from back in the day then I'm going to tend to lead with the correlation theory over the coincidence theory.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:40 am
by Mustangs35SMU
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:14 am
by Stallion
,,,and there's No. 9 a preliminary 3.6M at about 1:00 am
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:56 am
by Comet
I work downtown and didn't feel anything at all yesterday. Have a co-worker who has an apartment out in Las Colinas and she's ready to move. Keeps getting interrupted and woken up (shaken up too I'd imagine) at night due to constant earthquakes in the last 6 months. Do we have any idea what this could be? I've heard things ranging from University of Dallas drilling a well, to drilling and construction at the old Texas Stadium site, to fracking (which doesn't make sense here - too far from fracking, epicenter is too deep as well).
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:00 am
by SMU 86
couch 'em wrote:SMU 86 wrote:Any fault line in the DFW area that has been disrupted by drilling or whatever can cause these. Just need to see how many faults are in the DFW area.
The old Texas stadium is right on top of the Balcones Fault, which runs from south texas, roughly up I35 through Irving and then splinters into Oklahoma and Arkansas. We are on top of what was once a large mountain range, the vestiges of which you can see in AR and OK.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcones_Fault
Thanks Couchem. I guess they will have to see what is going on along that fault line.
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:17 am
by couch 'em
Comet wrote:I work downtown and didn't feel anything at all yesterday. Have a co-worker who has an apartment out in Las Colinas and she's ready to move. Keeps getting interrupted and woken up (shaken up too I'd imagine) at night due to constant earthquakes in the last 6 months. Do we have any idea what this could be? I've heard things ranging from University of Dallas drilling a well, to drilling and construction at the old Texas Stadium site, to fracking (which doesn't make sense here - too far from fracking, epicenter is too deep as well).
I don't know where to look to verify, but supposedly there is an injection well near the old stadium site right in the middle of the quake areas. Maybe some of the oil/gas types know how to look this up.
8 total quakes yesterday.
USGS suspects a link
http://www.usgs.gov/blogs/features/usgs_top_story/man-made-earthquakes/
Re: Okay, enough is enough
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:18 am
by 03Mustang
Comet wrote:Do we have any idea what this could be? I've heard things ranging from University of Dallas drilling a well, to drilling and construction at the old Texas Stadium site, to fracking (which doesn't make sense here - too far from fracking, epicenter is too deep as well).
Injection wells are very near that site, and recent studies have shown that they do in fact generate small earthquakes. The fact that it is right on the fault line is likely the key issue.