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Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:47 pm
by sbsmith
Pony Boss wrote:A lot of those scores are skewed due to giving up too many big plays. Temple, Memphis and Navy graduate their QBs btw...

It's just Memphis and Navy and both coaches have a rep for developing QBs. Don't expect a huge drop-off at QB for either team.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:18 pm
by JasonB
Memphis lost their HC and that could have an impact. Navy has a great HC, I bet they don't lose a step.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:50 am
by Pony Boss
sbsmith wrote:
Pony Boss wrote:A lot of those scores are skewed due to giving up too many big plays. Temple, Memphis and Navy graduate their QBs btw...

It's just Memphis and Navy and both coaches have a rep for developing QBs. Don't expect a huge drop-off at QB for either team.
Bercovici is such an impressive QB....and Norvell's record vs Texas schools is even more impressive. 0-2 so far. ( lost to Aggy and tech.)

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:25 pm
by NTXCoog
vielsiehorsepower wrote: Rankings, like most stats, can be misleading. For instance, someone mentioned that Houston has a very top heavy class and that the stanggang16 2 stars seem to be much more sought after than the htowntakeover16 2 stars. A lot of our recruits had offers from very solid p5 programs. So many of these guys are p5 caliber players and not just the level your mid to lower level schools recruit at in those conferences. Last year was a pretty big step towards turning this roster over and this year was a gigantic step in that direction!

See the offer list for yourself http://smu.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits
The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:32 pm
by vielsiehorsepower
NTXCoog wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote: Rankings, like most stats, can be misleading. For instance, someone mentioned that Houston has a very top heavy class and that the stanggang16 2 stars seem to be much more sought after than the htowntakeover16 2 stars. A lot of our recruits had offers from very solid p5 programs. So many of these guys are p5 caliber players and not just the level your mid to lower level schools recruit at in those conferences. Last year was a pretty big step towards turning this roster over and this year was a gigantic step in that direction!

See the offer list for yourself http://smu.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits
The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.

I didn't take responsibility for that information I said that someone had mentioned that somewhere on here. I paraphrased because I didn't care enough to fact check

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:38 am
by Pony Boss
NTXCoog wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote: Rankings, like most stats, can be misleading. For instance, someone mentioned that Houston has a very top heavy class and that the stanggang16 2 stars seem to be much more sought after than the htowntakeover16 2 stars. A lot of our recruits had offers from very solid p5 programs. So many of these guys are p5 caliber players and not just the level your mid to lower level schools recruit at in those conferences. Last year was a pretty big step towards turning this roster over and this year was a gigantic step in that direction!

See the offer list for yourself http://smu.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits
The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.
Cheating gets you those kind of classes.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:52 am
by smusic 00
Herman will be at UT (at least gone from hou ) within two years. Not that they're in bad shape.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:29 am
by PonySnob
Pony Boss wrote:
NTXCoog wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote: Rankings, like most stats, can be misleading. For instance, someone mentioned that Houston has a very top heavy class and that the stanggang16 2 stars seem to be much more sought after than the htowntakeover16 2 stars. A lot of our recruits had offers from very solid p5 programs. So many of these guys are p5 caliber players and not just the level your mid to lower level schools recruit at in those conferences. Last year was a pretty big step towards turning this roster over and this year was a gigantic step in that direction!

See the offer list for yourself http://smu.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits
The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.
Cheating gets you those kind of classes.
Based on?

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:01 am
by Pony Boss
PonySnob wrote:
Pony Boss wrote:
NTXCoog wrote: The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.
Cheating gets you those kind of classes.
Based on?
Herman is cheating. Big time. No way you get top 35 talent being a g5. At least that is what I have come to believe here in ponyfans

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:29 pm
by SoCal_Pony
PonySnob wrote:
NTXCoog wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote: Rankings, like most stats, can be misleading. For instance, someone mentioned that Houston has a very top heavy class and that the stanggang16 2 stars seem to be much more sought after than the htowntakeover16 2 stars. A lot of our recruits had offers from very solid p5 programs. So many of these guys are p5 caliber players and not just the level your mid to lower level schools recruit at in those conferences. Last year was a pretty big step towards turning this roster over and this year was a gigantic step in that direction!

See the offer list for yourself http://smu.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits

The UH comparison makes no sense, especially if you're using 247. Here's UH's list of commits on 247 http://houston.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits. I guess you're correct that UH's 2 stars didn't have any P5 offers, but there is only 1 two star on the list vs 10 for SMU. And the 1 UH 2 star had an offer from SMU. For the other 18 recruits, there were 15 three stars, 2 four stars, and 1 five star. SMU had 0 five star, 0 four star, 15 three star and 10 two star

And if you want to go with Rivals, UH has 6 two stars with 3 of them having P5 offers. Meanwhile SMU has 22 two stars.
Cheating gets you those kind of classes.
Based on?
Our sudden rise in BB?

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:45 pm
by JasonB
The stars and offers comparison UH versus SMU I think was on Scout data.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:07 pm
by sbsmith
Pony Boss wrote: Bercovici is such an impressive QB....and Norvell's record vs Texas schools is even more impressive. 0-2 so far. ( lost to Aggy and tech.)


Taylor Kelly was pretty impressive too. Not sure what Norvell's record versus Texas P5s has to do with anything though.

Re: 72% of the class has P5 offers

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:27 pm
by NTXCoog
JasonB wrote:The stars and offers comparison UH versus SMU I think was on Scout data.
I see 4 of 10 for SMU (although counting Kansas as P5. There are sunbelt teams better than them)

For UH 2 of 6 but 2 of 5 if you dont count the JUCO transfer

So 40% of 2 star HS commits with at least 1 P5 for both schools