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Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:11 pm
by mrydel
No Quarter wrote:I remember a report from the beginning of the HCCM days, perhaps seen on ponyfans, that CM had ordered a trophy case in which a future National Championship trophy was to be displayed. I don't know if the purchase was actually made. If so, I hope that he offers to buy it and take it to Baylor with him and certainly think SMU should let it go at cost, perhaps wrapped with a red and blue ribbon.
I understand that money talks but wonder if he will dicker for a "no buyout" clause should ATM offer in a year or two.
Word I heard is that he did get an "out" clause for TAM
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:13 pm
by Pony81
One Trick Pony wrote:Pony81 wrote:I'd love to get Charlie Strong. Probably dreaming though.
I'd love to get anybody that will stay for 5 years and be productive not whining about facilities.
My oldest son that graduated from UCF said that our schools UCF SMU are stepping stones and that will never change so deal with it.
I wish Chad well, don't think you're taking the fu%=en helicopter with you though.
Your son is right. That's why we need to get a great retread coach (LB ) or Charlie that is already rich but still has a passion for the game or something to prove to the world. If that doesn't exist - and they are few and far between- then we are going to continue to have the coaching carrousel spin. Just hope when we lose one its for their success at SMU.
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:13 pm
by ponyinNC
THE FACT THAT BAYLOR WOULD ALLOW AN OUT CLAUSE FOR TAMU TELS ME EBRYTHING I NEED TO KNOW. HE WONT BE AT BAYLOR LONG EITHER. WOW
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:14 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
One Trick Pony wrote:My oldest son that graduated from UCF said that our schools UCF SMU are stepping stones and that will never change so deal with it.
wasn't O'Leary head coach at UCF for over a decade?
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:15 pm
by One Trick Pony
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:One Trick Pony wrote:My oldest son that graduated from UCF said that our schools UCF SMU are stepping stones and that will never change so deal with it.
wasn't O'Leary head coach at UCF for over a decade?
Yes the murdering coach with the Statue was on his way in when Kyle was on his way out in 2004
His team did kick the [deleted] out of Baylor in the Sugar Bowl though
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:18 pm
by mrydel
O'Leary was toxic when he went to UCF and then killed a kid while there. I doubt a lot of schools were after him. Worked out very well for UCF.
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:22 pm
by One Trick Pony
Baylor is not going to have any problems for long.
Penn State was able to revive itself from probably the worst ever scenario in college football how many years has it been now three
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:43 pm
by Stallion
Hell Baylor is going to have a helluva recruiting class-this year-Baylor will benefit from the hard work they put in as employees of SMU. But I think he goes hard after the Texas 100 not just SMU's Class. The State of Texas is in major flux
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:49 pm
by Pony81
Stallion wrote:Hell Baylor is going to have a helluva recruiting class-this year-Baylor will benefit from the hard work they put in as employees of SMU. But I think he goes hard after the Texas 100 not just SMU's Class. The State of Texas is in major flux
He will try to take the top 5-6 out of our class. He may be surprised the BU situation will scare off kids with real choices. While he will go after the Top 100, they all have choices beyond the state.....
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:53 pm
by Stallion
The NCAA already gave Baylor an early Christmas present by stating that they don't intend to treat criminal actions/Title IX violations as major NCAA violations. Still could be a tickin' time-bomb though because actual NCAA violations could come out
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:12 pm
by smupony94
Stallion wrote:The NCAA already gave Baylor an early Christmas present by stating that they don't intend to treat criminal actions/Title IX violations as major NCAA violations. Still could be a tickin' time-bomb though because actual NCAA violations could come out
They still have the minor issue of the Justice Department on their [deleted]
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:12 pm
by One Trick Pony
If employed and recruiting for the school there should be a contractual Clause that states that you will not attempt to take the ones you've contacted with you if you should choose to leave to go to another Collegiate environment.
Something similar to a non-compete clause.
It's near impossible to say You must stay here for 5 years so what else could one possibly do
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:25 pm
by HubbaHubba
Besides the money (and that is a BIG beside) why would he go to Baylor? Success at SMU is all he needs to step into a real job. The Baylor dung heap has to be the worst P5 position in the land. He has everything to lose and nothing to gain (except $) by going there. Rutgers, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt would all be a major step up from that he11 hole in Wacko. If things continue to hit the fan at Baylor I can see him having to recycle as a coordinator or coach at a FCS school in 2-3 years.
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:44 pm
by PonyKris89
gostangs wrote:If he is leaving he probably is making the right business move. Its his business, and its our hobby or passion or whatever - but most of us don't feed ourselves with SMU sports. I don't blame him for saying yes to doubling your salary and moving up the NCAA pecking order. I personally think he could do better but its his call. No need to denigrate the guy - he worked hard and did what he said. No complaints. These guys don't coach for life anymore.
Next mercenary please. Hope he is a good one.
If he goes to Baylor and guts this recruiting class, then I will be free to slam him... he was recruiting these kids while paid by SMU..
If he gets away with minimal damage to recruiting class then I am fine.
I still don't believe he leaves for Baylor.
If he does, I wish him nothing but failure.
Re: Channel 5 KXAS says he's Accepted Offer From Baylor
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:47 pm
by Rebel10
ponyinNC wrote:THE FACT THAT BAYLOR WOULD ALLOW AN OUT CLAUSE FOR TAMU TELS ME EBRYTHING I NEED TO KNOW. HE WONT BE AT BAYLOR LONG EITHER. WOW
Lots of coaches have out clauses for their dream school. Bottom line is no one knows if Sumlin will be fired anytime soon.