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Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:59 pm
by SMUguy
mr. pony wrote:Will JJ say:
"We beat Tulsa next week and our preseason goal of six wins and another pissant bowl will be reached. That would be four in a row. Take that, Matty Bell. I may ask for an extension."
What would you prefer him to say? "We're not going to show up next week"?? Of course he's going to talk about the chance for four bowls in a row. He has no other choices.
He's going to say the team has a chance to go back to a bowl game, because it's true, and he has to say that.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:02 pm
by SMUguy
Rebel10 wrote:We do have more players on our current team that have BCS offers than Rice which means Rice just OUTCOACHED us.
Does it? Maybe.
Maybe they outcoached us, maybe the players outplayed us. Not to deflate the "June caused all of the world's problems" tirade, but more than likely, it was a combination of both.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:03 pm
by OR-See-Nee
SMUguy wrote:mr. pony wrote:Will JJ say:
"We beat Tulsa next week and our preseason goal of six wins and another pissant bowl will be reached. That would be four in a row. Take that, Matty Bell. I may ask for an extension."
What would you prefer him to say? "We're not going to show up next week"?? Of course he's going to talk about the chance for four bowls in a row. He has no other choices.
He's going to say the team has a chance to go back to a bowl game, because it's true, and he has to say that.
Check out the Post Game Transcript in the Football Forum.
The Great Lei is on FIRE!
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:03 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
SMUguy, would you give JJ and his crew another 5 year contract?
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:05 pm
by SMUguy
SMU_Alumni11 wrote:SMUguy, would you give JJ and his crew another 5 year contract?
Today? No.
If he comes back next year and things improve? Cross that bridge if/when we come to it.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:07 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
SMUguy wrote:SMU_Alumni11 wrote:SMUguy, would you give JJ and his crew another 5 year contract?
Today? No.
Thats all that matters now. I know you disagree with hate. This has been a rollercoaster since the USM game last year. For me, him being fired and getting some balanced offense like Blakenship has would be so much more beneficial to us that anything. We are getting great RBs and yet we hardly utilize them.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:11 pm
by SoCal_Pony
Rebel10 wrote:JasonB wrote:we have 6 players who received multiple offers from major BCS programs
We have 9 more players who received multiple offers from other BCS programs
We have 18 other players who received 1 BCS offer.
JasonB is talking about the players on the current team not this current class. He is trying to defend Jones again. It called spin to defend.
Jason uses those stats to defend JJ, yet any reasonable person would use them to condemn JJ.
85 scholarships and only 15 players with multiple BCS offers? that is a joke
And you wonder why we can’t compete against the Techs and Baylor of the world?
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:22 pm
by mr. pony
SMUguy wrote:mr. pony wrote:Will JJ say:
"We beat Tulsa next week and our preseason goal of six wins and another pissant bowl will be reached. That would be four in a row. Take that, Matty Bell. I may ask for an extension."
What would you prefer him to say?
How 'bout, "good-bye?"
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:24 pm
by mr. pony
The point is, 6-7 wins in Year Five is a d*mn embarrassing goal.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:24 pm
by OR-See-Nee
Remember, this was Rice's Superbowl, so this loss really isn't THAT bad.
Just wait until next week when the Great Lei and team wipe up Tulsa in Ford Stadium in front of a SRO crowd!
Go Mustangs!
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:51 pm
by owl40
From a Rice Fan who was at the game today...what I saw..
a) This was not Rice's Super Bowl. That is arrogant. We had to win to keep bowl hopes alive and we came to play whether it was SMU, UAB, Marshall or whoever..it did not matter.
b) Takeaway the garbage TD at the end-of-game and it was two score game. One score you gave away on Z. Line fumble into the endzone and the other was a TD drop by your WR on a Rice busted coverage. That was the difference. As I said on earlier post(s), it was/is two evenly matched teams and I believe that still to be the case. You made two costly errors and Rice did not make any but overall teams are/were even. I still think we win b/c of the advantage in kicking game but no way is Rice 3TD's better than SMU.
c) Gilbert looked good. Threw a good ball on-target and improves each week w/ his feet. He has improved from earlier in season.
d) Although our first three RB's were banged-up and did not really play, I thought SMU did best job of anyone we played this year (including UCLA, Tulsa, and La Tech) stopping our run. We are a top-30 running team and could get nothing going today. Gameplan was to force McHargue to throw it and you did execute that.
e) Of course I am biased but Rice is a good team. This is not your parents Rice team. That is why so much frustration from Owl fans (and want to fire the coach) of the 5-6 record as many expected this team to contend for C-USA and beat UCLA and La Tech. Rice is finally living up to its potential in last month. Rice is not Tulane. There is talent on the field and probably half dozen guys who will be playing on Sundays. The brand of "Rice Football' is a laughingstock and butt of jokes after decades of bad teams. It is improving and brand should improve in time.
f) I am in the minority on this board but I don't think June Jones lost that game. A couple boneheaded penalties, a drop, and a fumble lost that game. JJ not responsible for any of those. While I think he is overpaid, I do think he has accomplished more than prior coaches have. Question is one of value of ~$2M/year, not on whether he is a good coach. Our coach makes $500K and that is about right for his 'value'
Best of luck against Tulsa. We had them beat and one bad defensive play very late cost us the game.
Will be interesting to see if BE implodes w/ Big 10 going after NY and DC TV markets and swooping in.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:52 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
owl40 wrote:From a Rice Fan who was at the game today...what I saw..
Thanks for your sensible observations. Enjoy your bowl game! We will just be watching.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:26 am
by Rayburn
owl40 wrote:a) This was not Rice's Super Bowl. That is arrogant. We had to win to keep bowl hopes alive and we came to play whether it was SMU, UAB, Marshall or whoever..it did not matter.
He's only kidding. Congratulations to Rice today and good luck.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:53 am
by Rebel10
SMUguy wrote:Rebel10 wrote:We do have more players on our current team that have BCS offers than Rice which means Rice just OUTCOACHED us.
Does it? Maybe.
Maybe they outcoached us, maybe the players outplayed us. Not to deflate the "June caused all of the world's problems" tirade, but more than likely, it was a combination of both.
JJ coaches the players, JJ recruits the players. It all falls on JJ.
Re: Official SMU Rice Thread
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:15 am
by OR-See-Nee
Rayburn wrote:owl40 wrote:a) This was not Rice's Super Bowl. That is arrogant. We had to win to keep bowl hopes alive and we came to play whether it was SMU, UAB, Marshall or whoever..it did not matter.
He's only kidding. Congratulations to Rice today and good luck.
Thanks, Rayburn. Should have used the sarcasm emoticon!
Owl40, there's a history of that comment with another school whose coach said that about us. Congrats on the win.