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the red river rivalry is not leaving the cotton bowl. You can take that to the bank.

plus i have to side with 11 on the jerry world deal. It is not anything special - and ask anyone that has played there - you cannot maintain a home - field advantage since it swallows all sound. everyone sits on their hands and watches TV while paying crazy prices for everything after spending all day getting there. People are just now admitting what everyone has known since going there - the place is boring. The best part is the outside - once you go in all fun stops.

we can agree to disagree on Hawaii bowl. Bowls are for players and for fans. This one only makes half the equation happy. Hope for the day we can go to a bowl that we can all enjoy - and that we can all get excited about.

gostangs wrote:the red river rivalry is not leaving the cotton bowl. You can take that to the bank.

plus i have to side with 11 on the jerry world deal. It is not anything special - and ask anyone that has played there - you cannot maintain a home - field advantage since it swallows all sound. everyone sits on their hands and watches TV while paying crazy prices for everything after spending all day getting there. People are just now admitting what everyone has known since going there - the place is boring. The best part is the outside - once you go in all fun stops.

we can agree to disagree on Hawaii bowl. Bowls are for players and for fans. This one only makes half the equation happy. Hope for the day we can go to a bowl that we can all enjoy - and that we can all get excited about.

Gostang I actually agree with you on this post for the most part. I would not like to see SMU play in Jerry World. I would like to see them play in the Cotton Bowl game. That's the point I was making. That's a significant bowl that I think players and fans could get excited about. But I was at the AFB last year and do not want to repeat that. I also played at the Cotton Bowl in the 90's and remember how pathetic the turn out was. Personally I don't want this generation of players to endure that.

Hi dubs- I agree that the cotton bowl in not our stadium. However, IMO it is the 'house that Doak built' and therefore will always be associated with SMU.

Would love to see a bowl game in the Cotton bowl. I could probably stretch my budget and make another trip to Dallas but Hawaii is out of the question for me.


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If Iowa is involved there would be a decent crowd and there is also a very interesting Hayden Fry connection. If Northwestern slips in-no Thanks. Another advantage of the TicketCity Bowl is for June Jones and staff to go out on the recruiting trail and argue that SMU made it to a New Years Bowl-(I know its on Monday Jan 2 but kids don't really care. If they go to Hawaii-I'll try to make that too

Yep- Hayden not only coached at SMU but was very revered in Iowa for turning their program around. Would be an interesting game.

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smudubs wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote: So basically all you are saying is it's your way or the highway? If you looked at fan attendance at our previous games its been around 20k, i just assume take out 5k for going home. The Hawaii bowl in BE was a joke so calm down before you get a heart attack. Cotton bowl isnt a dump otherwise red river rivalry would never pick that play to play. They do it for obvious tradition, so why give up on our old tradition there in our old home? Jerry world is nothing to get excited about, its just a brand new stadium thats it. No history. Before diagnosing the situation, clearly nobody has issues on here theyre just venting or saying their opinions. Obviously if you dont like that then message boards, general society would have a problem with you. I dont mean to start an issue with you, but its extremely annoying and insulting to act superior to people on a message board, and trying to make people with you. You could just disagree offer better reasons than I know more, I have better understanding, and more life experiences. Rather you should just welcome discussion and criticism that people see. If you have solid facts than you can set the record straight, but by no means should you try to shut people out. This should always be good natured, there shouldnt be any pile ups or threatening comments.

My comment was not intended to come across as belittling. It's ok to disagree. That's part of what makes this board fun. My comment concerning you having issues had more to do with your constant complaints about people eating at the Cox tent and your disapproval of the football team getting a "free trip" to Hawaii. It's not like they have done anything to earn that trip like practice 20 hours a week, study film during spare time, and maintain their grades.

Now regarding the rest of your rant, I honestly had trouble following it or seeing your point. As someone else stated, the Red River Rivalry likely will not continue at the Cotton Bowl. Also, the Cotton Bowl is not our home stadium.

Of course, Im glad we can disagree. However the only reason I rant about the food is because the people whos only intention of being there is for free food. I dont want to get into the food issue, and I think Cox Mustang described the issue better than I did. I originally only wanted to put one post and be done with it, but then I got comments that I am evil and people not understanding what i mean is why the rant continued for so long. Its just a frustration I had when I bring my family and friends with me and they run out of food in first 30 minutes in the boulevard, only to be saved by my girlfriend who gets access to law school tent that has food (and drinks) till the end of blvd event because they keep out those who (politically correct stating) shouldnt be there in the first place. Again I dont want to get into it again or the qualifications but just rationally saying (Not student, faculty, alumni, or friends of 3 and Cox, and heck add in just anybody who is affliated with SMU).

For the Hawaii vs Cotton Bowl, I posted earlier (or in another thread) Cotton Bowl was our home from '32-'78 and '95-'00. So I figure a majority of its existence was SMU's home. Now I only rant about players getting free trip was not directly towards them but more so that we cant do it every other or third year (assuming not in BE, but hypothetical) just so players get free trip. I feel it is a reward and current benefit that has no lasting impact for the development of great football team. I wish the Hawaii bowl was bigger bowl, and school had packages for alumni and students, and it wasnt on Christmas Eve then it would be like a win-win (not to annoy anyone with the terrible AA commercial). I believe pretty much every team deserves to go to the Hawaii bowl (best location out of all the bowls), but for the continuing success and brand recognition it doesnt do anything, nor benefit Dallas (which at this point is a weak argument, since they dont do crap for us). For now, I rather just move on. If we go Hawaii- Pony up and BTHO Hawaii, go ticketcity- btho Big 10.

Please take note to my last sentence, to really sum up my feelings for our bowl game.

Hey 11 -- I know where you are coming from. Previously, we would kill to play in the Cotton Bowl. The TicketCity Bowl isn't the Cotton Bowl. It's only played there. However, C-USA isn't the SWC, we have to understand that. However, Stallion's point about a New Year's day bowl does make sense. The bowl sequence is usually rated in order of precedence. I understand that's not always the case, however, TicketCity is considered a better bowl than Hawaii, except for the weather. Either way, we root for the team wherever they are. Hopefully, the bowl decision is made with the success of the program in mind, and not an ego-satisfier, much less with "helping" the state of Hawaii with their revenue situation. Last I heard, the SMU charter doesn't include anything about freaking Hawaii. Enjoy the experience and your family. You are only young once, right Mrydel?

Gotcha wrote: Enjoy the experience and your family. You are only young once, right Mrydel?

Not sure. Have not decided to grow up yet.

Gotcha wrote:Hey 11 -- I know where you are coming from. Previously, we would kill to play in the Cotton Bowl. The TicketCity Bowl isn't the Cotton Bowl. It's only played there. However, C-USA isn't the SWC, we have to understand that. However, Stallion's point about a New Year's day bowl does make sense. The bowl sequence is usually rated in order of precedence. I understand that's not always the case, however, TicketCity is considered a better bowl than Hawaii, except for the weather. Either way, we root for the team wherever they are. Hopefully, the bowl decision is made with the success of the program in mind, and not an ego-satisfier, much less with "helping" the state of Hawaii with their revenue situation. Last I heard, the SMU charter doesn't include anything about freaking Hawaii. Enjoy the experience and your family. You are only young once, right Mrydel?

Yeah, I understand. I just wish I have a reason to go inside and see the cotton bowl. If only I was able to enjoy the SWC days, then ticketcity wouldnt even really matter that much. I know Ill never go to a red river rivalry (even given free tickets, i sell them) because I despise both UT and OU. But nevertheless, go ponies.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

Gotcha wrote:Hey 11 -- I know where you are coming from. Previously, we would kill to play in the Cotton Bowl. The TicketCity Bowl isn't the Cotton Bowl. It's only played there. However, C-USA isn't the SWC, we have to understand that. However, Stallion's point about a New Year's day bowl does make sense. The bowl sequence is usually rated in order of precedence. I understand that's not always the case, however, TicketCity is considered a better bowl than Hawaii, except for the weather. Either way, we root for the team wherever they are. Hopefully, the bowl decision is made with the success of the program in mind, and not an ego-satisfier, much less with "helping" the state of Hawaii with their revenue situation. Last I heard, the SMU charter doesn't include anything about freaking Hawaii. Enjoy the experience and your family. You are only young once, right Mrydel?

Yeah, I understand. I just wish I have a reason to go inside and see the cotton bowl. If only I was able to enjoy the SWC days, then ticketcity wouldnt even really matter that much. I know Ill never go to a red river rivalry (even given free tickets, i sell them) because I despise both UT and OU. But nevertheless, go ponies.

Take your happy [deleted] to Grambling/Prarie View. Then you can see the stadium at its finest.

SMUDUBS Better Half wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

Gotcha wrote:Hey 11 -- I know where you are coming from. Previously, we would kill to play in the Cotton Bowl. The TicketCity Bowl isn't the Cotton Bowl. It's only played there. However, C-USA isn't the SWC, we have to understand that. However, Stallion's point about a New Year's day bowl does make sense. The bowl sequence is usually rated in order of precedence. I understand that's not always the case, however, TicketCity is considered a better bowl than Hawaii, except for the weather. Either way, we root for the team wherever they are. Hopefully, the bowl decision is made with the success of the program in mind, and not an ego-satisfier, much less with "helping" the state of Hawaii with their revenue situation. Last I heard, the SMU charter doesn't include anything about freaking Hawaii. Enjoy the experience and your family. You are only young once, right Mrydel?

Yeah, I understand. I just wish I have a reason to go inside and see the cotton bowl. If only I was able to enjoy the SWC days, then ticketcity wouldnt even really matter that much. I know Ill never go to a red river rivalry (even given free tickets, i sell them) because I despise both UT and OU. But nevertheless, go ponies.

Take your happy [deleted] to Grambling/Prarie View. Then you can see the stadium at its finest.

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That was just stupid better half. No idea why that would be relevant

gostangs wrote:That was just stupid better half. No idea why that would be relevant

It's simple. 11 said he wished he had a reason to go inside the Cotton Bowl and then said he wouldn't go to the Red River Rivalry. Better Half simply gave him an alternative to see the stadium. Reading comprehension 101.

smudubs wrote:

gostangs wrote:That was just stupid better half. No idea why that would be relevant

It's simple. 11 said he wished he had a reason to go inside the Cotton Bowl and then said he wouldn't go to the Red River Rivalry. Better Half simply gave him an alternative to see the stadium. Reading comprehension 101.

Oh Ha ha, why is it such a big deal if I want to see SMU play at the cotton bowl, hmm? Your better side doesnt seem a better side of you. (Yes just like the revese saying of those bumper stickers: "My money and my kid will never go to UT or OU."