JJ v KP Updated

[redpony]

Hopefully they are a little bigger and faster. Now what we really need is for Klemm to make them 'mean as hell'. That is what I think was missing with the line this year. No emotion, no ' I wanna take your head off' attitude.

GO PONIES!!!

[smupony94]

Laken Litman
If granted med RS, Padron & Garrett Gilbert can bond over being starters that were benched, got injured, then applied for another yr. #smu

[Gotcha]

by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

It means you were screwed over by the coach.

[SMU_Alumni11]

by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

It means you were screwed over by the coach.

EXACTLY!

[Gotcha]

PonyArt wrote:
by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

Probably havent played enough, its a running offense, you are a terrible QB. I mean this is a passing offense, so if you have 15 total TDs and 14 Ints... i mean thats terrible. If you were referring to KP he had two ints, and he only played for like 4 plays.... and he has a running TDs since well he can actually run.

MCDERMOTT 240-405-14 / 15 TD / 3003 yards

Padron 9-20-3 / 0 TD / 45 yards

Compare like amounts of playing time. Kp 302/508/14 INT (in 14 games -- McD is 14 in 11 and won't even see 14th game). 3828 yards, 31 TDs. Even Kp's backup numbers are better than McD's 2010 backup numbers. Biggest difference is Kp led the team to 2 Div titles and a Conf Championship Final, and 2 bowls. Think McD will throw for 460 yards? Maybe the next 2 games. Not even close. Coaches need to be graded as well. It's obvious there are many that don't think the man in black has done enough to retain his scholarship. poor job. Must get better.

[PonyArt]

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PonyArt wrote:
by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:
Probably havent played enough, its a running offense, you are a terrible QB. I mean this is a passing offense, so if you have 15 total TDs and 14 Ints... i mean thats terrible. If you were referring to KP he had two ints, and he only played for like 4 plays.... and he has a running TDs since well he can actually run.

PonyArt wrote:
MCDERMOTT 240-405-14 / 15 TD / 3003 yards

Padron 9-20-3 / 0 TD / 45 yards

Compare like amounts of playing time. Kp 302/508/14 INT (in 14 games -- McD is 14 in 11 and won't even see 14th game). 3828 yards, 31 TDs. Even Kp's backup numbers are better than McD's 2010 backup numbers. Biggest difference is Kp led the team to 2 Div titles and a Conf Championship Final, and 2 bowls. Think McD will throw for 460 yards? Maybe the next 2 games. Not even close. Coaches need to be graded as well. It's obvious there are many that don't think the man in black has done enough to retain his scholarship. poor job. Must get better.

Ok, comparing like amounts of playing time…. McDermott has started 10 games at SMU. Compare McDermott's last 10 games with the last 10 games in which Padron was the starter …..

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
4 wins < 6 Losses

To be fair, although Padron started the A&M game and contributed to the defeat by throwing 2 early picks and getting SMU into a 14 pt. deficit before McDermott took over, he didn't play the whole game, so the A&M game won't be included as Padron's loss. Compare instead Padron's 10 games before that.

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
5 Wins = 5 Losses

[StallionsModelT]

This is like a poll over which is better...cyanide or rat poison?

[MustangSTATS]

trolls gonna troll

[Gotcha]

I would be suprised if he transfers. I just don't see him as a quitter.

GO PONIES!!!

Obviously, you don't watch the games. padron is not a quitter. Telling Jones to F- himself isn't quitting. Look at Jones' resume, see how many times he transferred. Padron got screwed over by an ego maniac and SMU will pay the price.

[Gotcha]

By Gotcha

PonyArt wrote:
by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:
Probably havent played enough, its a running offense, you are a terrible QB. I mean this is a passing offense, so if you have 15 total TDs and 14 Ints... i mean thats terrible. If you were referring to KP he had two ints, and he only played for like 4 plays.... and he has a running TDs since well he can actually run.

PonyArt wrote:
MCDERMOTT 240-405-14 / 15 TD / 3003 yards


I know you liberal arts majors think abstract and like to support your arguments with obtuse shitp...you can look at Padron's last 10 games, last 5 games, last 21 games and compared to McD, it doesn't matter, Kp led SMU to Division Titles both years he was the QB. McD has led the team no-where. If winning is all that counts when evaluating QBs, then McD hasn't won a title and Kp has won 2. Kp wins in stat comparisons and wins. I wonder how many C-USA Coach of the Year votes Jones gets this year?

Compare like amounts of playing time. Kp 302/508/14 INT (in 14 games -- McD is 14 in 11 and won't even see 14th game). 3828 yards, 31 TDs. Even Kp's backup numbers are better than McD's 2010 backup numbers. Biggest difference is Kp led the team to 2 Div titles and a Conf Championship Final, and 2 bowls. Think McD will throw for 460 yards? Maybe the next 2 games. Not even close. Coaches need to be graded as well. It's obvious there are many that don't think the man in black has done enough to retain his scholarship. poor job. Must get better.

[PonyArt]

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by SMU_Alumni11
...When you have almost the same Ints and TDs, you are a terrible QB.

PonyArt wrote:
Interesting analysis. So, when you have 3 interceptions and no touchdowns, what kind of quarterback are you? Just curious.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:
Probably havent played enough, its a running offense, you are a terrible QB. I mean this is a passing offense, so if you have 15 total TDs and 14 Ints... i mean thats terrible. If you were referring to KP he had two ints, and he only played for like 4 plays.... and he has a running TDs since well he can actually run.

PonyArt wrote:

MCDERMOTT 240-405-14 / 15 TD / 3003 yards

PADRON 9-20-3 / 0 TD / 45 yards

Gotcha wrote:
Compare like amounts of playing time. Kp 302/508/14 INT (in 14 games -- McD is 14 in 11 and won't even see 14th game). 3828 yards, 31 TDs. Even Kp's backup numbers are better than McD's 2010 backup numbers. Biggest difference is Kp led the team to 2 Div titles and a Conf Championship Final, and 2 bowls. Think McD will throw for 460 yards? Maybe the next 2 games. Not even close. Coaches need to be graded as well. It's obvious there are many that don't think the man in black has done enough to retain his scholarship. poor job. Must get better.


PonyArt wrote:
Ok, comparing like amounts of playing time…. McDermott has started 10 games at SMU. Compare McDermott's last 10 games with the last 10 games in which Padron was the starter …..

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
4 wins < 6 Losses

To be fair, although Padron started the A&M game and contributed to the defeat by throwing 2 early picks and getting SMU into a 14 pt. deficit before McDermott took over, he didn't play the whole game, so the A&M game won't be included as Padron's loss. Compare instead Padron's 10 games before that.

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
5 Wins = 5 Losses

Gotcha wrote:
I know you liberal arts majors think abstract and like to support your arguments with obtuse shitp...you can look at Padron's last 10 games, last 5 games, last 21 games and compared to McD, it doesn't matter, Kp led SMU to Division Titles both years he was the QB. McD has led the team no-where. If winning is all that counts when evaluating QBs, then McD hasn't won a title and Kp has won 2. Kp wins in stat comparisons and wins. I wonder how many C-USA Coach of the Year votes Jones gets this year?

Hmmmm….. Don't see how Padron's CURRENT statistics and 10 MOST RECENT games could be classified as "obtuse shitp". Recent statistics are really the only statistics that matter because reliving the glory days of yesteryear doesn't win ball games. Coaches are notorious for having a "what have you done for me, lately" attitude, particularly at this level, mainly I assume, because if they don't win games, they get fired. They probably feel bad for the players that get benched. Jones seems like a stand up guy, and I'm sure that he's just trying to do what he thinks he needs to do to win ball games. That's his job and priority.

[GiddyUp]

in case you want to relive the nightmare of the AFB
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player?id=100496 - Padron was great

[SMU_Alumni11]

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Gotcha wrote:
Compare like amounts of playing time. Kp 302/508/14 INT (in 14 games -- McD is 14 in 11 and won't even see 14th game). 3828 yards, 31 TDs. Even Kp's backup numbers are better than McD's 2010 backup numbers. Biggest difference is Kp led the team to 2 Div titles and a Conf Championship Final, and 2 bowls. Think McD will throw for 460 yards? Maybe the next 2 games. Not even close. Coaches need to be graded as well. It's obvious there are many that don't think the man in black has done enough to retain his scholarship. poor job. Must get better.


PonyArt wrote:
Ok, comparing like amounts of playing time…. McDermott has started 10 games at SMU. Compare McDermott's last 10 games with the last 10 games in which Padron was the starter …..

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
4 wins < 6 Losses

To be fair, although Padron started the A&M game and contributed to the defeat by throwing 2 early picks and getting SMU into a 14 pt. deficit before McDermott took over, he didn't play the whole game, so the A&M game won't be included as Padron's loss. Compare instead Padron's 10 games before that.

McDermott
6 Wins > 4 losses

Padron
5 Wins = 5 Losses

Gotcha wrote:
I know you liberal arts majors think abstract and like to support your arguments with obtuse shitp...you can look at Padron's last 10 games, last 5 games, last 21 games and compared to McD, it doesn't matter, Kp led SMU to Division Titles both years he was the QB. McD has led the team no-where. If winning is all that counts when evaluating QBs, then McD hasn't won a title and Kp has won 2. Kp wins in stat comparisons and wins. I wonder how many C-USA Coach of the Year votes Jones gets this year?

Hmmmm….. Don't see how Padron's CURRENT statistics and 10 MOST RECENT games could be classified as "obtuse shitp". Recent statistics are really the only statistics that matter because reliving the glory days of yesteryear doesn't win ball games. Coaches are notorious for having a "what have you done for me, lately" attitude, particularly at this level, mainly I assume, because if they don't win games, they get fired. They probably feel bad for the players that get benched. Jones seems like a stand up guy, and I'm sure that he's just trying to do what he thinks he needs to do to win ball games. That's his job and priority.

Ok I dont know how that works out, because Padron was Qb last year (unless Im missing something) so we went 8-5. Which I believe 5 of those losses includes TCU (Rose Bowl Champs), Houston (had more points against them), Navy (much better last year), Tech (kept it close and did well), cant remember the other one on the top of my head. My point is KP played a tough season and against better teams he was able to mount an offense. He always played when we didnt have much of a defense. Now with McDermott, he beat a crappy TCU and UCF thats it... he is on the team where we have the best defense. The kid seems to have a terrible attitude, doesnt care that he sucks and is killing the team. I mean if I were the players who are seniors (especially) and junior I would be extremely disappointed that this is how it ends.... Im hoping KP next year since he deserves it with such a great attitude (Im bias because I went to the same HS) but nevertheless a good kid, Gilbert to bring in a nice entrance for BE. Hopefully a good follow up. I wouldnt mind if KP though played all his games and as long as we were winning let some of the others play to finish it out.

[PonyArt]

PonyArt wrote:
Hmmmm….. Don't see how Padron's CURRENT statistics and 10 MOST RECENT games could be classified as "obtuse shitp". Recent statistics are really the only statistics that matter because reliving the glory days of yesteryear doesn't win ball games. Coaches are notorious for having a "what have you done for me, lately" attitude, particularly at this level, mainly I assume, because if they don't win games, they get fired. They probably feel bad for the players that get benched. Jones seems like a stand up guy, and I'm sure that he's just trying to do what he thinks he needs to do to win ball games. That's his job and priority.

SMU_Alummi11 wrote:
Ok I dont know how that works out, because Padron was Qb last year (unless Im missing something) so we went 8-5. Which I believe 5 of those losses includes TCU (Rose Bowl Champs), Houston (had more points against them), Navy (much better last year), Tech (kept it close and did well), cant remember the other one on the top of my head. My point is KP played a tough season and against better teams he was able to mount an offense. He always played when we didnt have much of a defense. Now with McDermott, he beat a crappy TCU and UCF thats it... he is on the team where we have the best defense. The kid seems to have a terrible attitude, doesnt care that he sucks and is killing the team. I mean if I were the players who are seniors (especially) and junior I would be extremely disappointed that this is how it ends.... Im hoping KP next year since he deserves it with such a great attitude (Im bias because I went to the same HS) but nevertheless a good kid, Gilbert to bring in a nice entrance for BE. Hopefully a good follow up. I wouldnt mind if KP though played all his games and as long as we were winning let some of the others play to finish it out.

Padron went 7-7 in 2010, not 8-5. As for the "tough season" he had, Padron lost to Houston's 3rd string QB last year. Keenum and his backup were both out with season ending injuries. McDermott played an undefeated Keenum this year.

And about the TCU team that McDermott beat....TCU beat 5th ranked Boise State at Boise State, and is currently ranked 18th; not exactly "crappy".

Anyway, at least we agree on one thing; You're biased because you went to the same HS as Padron.

bi-as
noun
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.

[The PonyGrad]

assuming KP is healthy for the bowl game, what is his role in thegame and how does that impact next season?