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Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:13 pm
by PonySnob
SMU2007 wrote:everyone was so excited about jason phillips. What the hell has he done since he's been here?? I know he's not as vocal as klemm, reinebold, but definitely seems like he hasn't done a damn thing. Is it "the june effect"?
What is the speculation they Philips bailed during the Tulane game?

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:53 pm
by PK
SMU2007 wrote:everyone was so excited about jason phillips. What the hell has he done since he's been here?? I know he's not as vocal as klemm, reinebold, but definitely seems like he hasn't done a damn thing. Is it "the june effect"?
Someone posted the other day that recruiting was not one of Phillips duties assigned to him by Jones. True? Don't have a clue. Just repeating what I read.

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:57 pm
by CalallenStang
PK wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:everyone was so excited about jason phillips. What the hell has he done since he's been here?? I know he's not as vocal as klemm, reinebold, but definitely seems like he hasn't done a damn thing. Is it "the june effect"?
Someone posted the other day that recruiting was not one of Phillips duties assigned to him by Jones. True? Don't have a clue. Just repeating what I read.
I posted that - and let me be clear - Phillips has helped recruit on a few players but his "duties" are to coach the receivers and to give June input when June asks for it and only when June asks for it. Phillips himself said this in an interview conducted over on Rivals

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 pm
by JasonB
PK wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:everyone was so excited about jason phillips. What the hell has he done since he's been here?? I know he's not as vocal as klemm, reinebold, but definitely seems like he hasn't done a damn thing. Is it "the june effect"?
Someone posted the other day that recruiting was not one of Phillips duties assigned to him by Jones. True? Don't have a clue. Just repeating what I read.
Phillips is absolutely involved in recruiting, that is one of the main reasons he was hired. The staff isn't that stupid that they would not involve him in recruiting.

The rivals reporter was trying to get Phillips to say something controversial, asking if he was going to be working as an assistant OC. Phillips responded by saying he was brought in to coach WR and if he was asked to be involved in more, he would be. The conversation had absolutely nothing to do with recruiting.

If folks want to call out Phillips because his unit is under-achieving and dropping balls, that makes a lot of sense. But there is so much misinformation thrown around this board now, it is insane.

If there was an interview somewhere that Phillips said "I am not involved in recruiting" or another coach indicated that Phillips is not recruiting, I have not read it or watched it.

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 pm
by CalallenStang
JasonB -

What recruiting territory was Jason Phillips assigned?

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:58 pm
by Rebel10
CalallenStang wrote:JasonB -

What recruiting territory was Jason Phillips assigned?
You are taking to this shill like he is an all authority on SMU matter and he is not. He is just trying to keep his status up with the coaches so that he can get another interview with them if he has to do so. JasonB is a JJ propandaist. All he can do us speculate non what area JP has. He knows no more than you do even though he would like you to be so with his rhetoric.

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:58 pm
by couch 'em
JasonB wrote:
PK wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:everyone was so excited about jason phillips. What the hell has he done since he's been here?? I know he's not as vocal as klemm, reinebold, but definitely seems like he hasn't done a damn thing. Is it "the june effect"?
Someone posted the other day that recruiting was not one of Phillips duties assigned to him by Jones. True? Don't have a clue. Just repeating what I read.
Phillips is absolutely involved in recruiting, that is one of the main reasons he was hired. The staff isn't that stupid that they would not involve him in recruiting.

The rivals reporter was trying to get Phillips to say something controversial, asking if he was going to be working as an assistant OC. Phillips responded by saying he was brought in to coach WR and if he was asked to be involved in more, he would be. The conversation had absolutely nothing to do with recruiting.

If folks want to call out Phillips because his unit is under-achieving and dropping balls, that makes a lot of sense. But there is so much misinformation thrown around this board now, it is insane.

If there was an interview somewhere that Phillips said "I am not involved in recruiting" or another coach indicated that Phillips is not recruiting, I have not read it or watched it.
I heard that Phillips has been prevented or restricted in his recruiting by multiple sources long before that interview. For me, it merely confirmed the speculation that Phillips was forced upon June by Orsini.

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:09 am
by Rebel10
JasonB goes to few practices and writes some pro JJ junk verbiage and now he thinks he is an expert.

By the way Jason Phillips job title is listed as Co-O.C./Assistant Coach/WR so it was not a controversial question. But an anti recruit site jerk would perpetuate that is was.

http://www.smumustangs.com/sports/m-foo ... l-mtt.html

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:11 am
by CalallenStang
Here is the list of kids that Phillips has been lead recruiter on. Note that all of them were committed to us or elsewhere by July, except for Jarmon (we were out of the running by July) and Smith (don't have any info on him, but he has no stars and no offers)

http://smu.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Yea ... &Coach=977

The lead recruiter info comes from Rivals reporters talking to the kids and their parents, so if Phillips were lead on anyone else, they would be on this list.

So Phillips hasn't been actively recruiting since July, at the latest, except for maybe the mystery kid with no stars and no offers.

I guess he's not so involved in recruiting after all!

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:16 am
by Rebel10
CalallenStang wrote:Here is the list of kids that Phillips has been lead recruiter on. Note that all of them were committed to us or elsewhere by July, except for Jarmon (we were out of the running by July) and Smith (don't have any info on him, but he has no stars and no offers)

http://smu.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Yea ... &Coach=977

The lead recruiter info comes from Rivals reporters talking to the kids and their parents, so if Phillips were lead on anyone else, they would be on this list.

So Phillips hasn't been actively recruiting since July, at the latest, except for maybe the mystery kid with no stars and no offers.

I guess he's not so involved in recruiting after all!
IMO Hill and Mason are clearly taking the led in recruiting because they have the numbers. But numbers do not necessarily mean quality. Now Hill and Mason have been here for 5 years they are just as responsible for this mess of a season talent wise as anyone else.

Re: Okay, I'll bite

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:06 am
by ojaipony
That list might not be updated, I don't know. The guys he's going after at least mostly have tons of BCS offers he just hasn't closed the deal on any.