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ponyinNC wrote:I'm sorry guys, I don't see how we go to PAC. Just makes no sense. I get the TV market argument, but that is not enough to move the needle for me. Down the line, it may become a possibility...but we have a lot of work to do.

Yep, this. If we have a decade like TCU just had, then maybe. But we'll have to fill Ford, beat marquee opponents, and show a real commitment (IPF, athlete friendly majors) to major college football before we can be seriously considered.

The Big 10 just nabbed Maryland. I am not sure that a commitment to winning football is a requirement. Neither is attendance. I read that there may have been an actual crowd of 10,000 at their game against Boston College last year (football). With any super-conference the dog will be wagging the attendance tail. I still say we make perfect sense for the SEC if they go to 16. Texas Aggie needs a Texan dance partner.

Topper wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote:

ponyinNC wrote:I'm sorry guys, I don't see how we go to PAC. Just makes no sense. I get the TV market argument, but that is not enough to move the needle for me. Down the line, it may become a possibility...but we have a lot of work to do.

Yep, this. If we have a decade like TCU just had, then maybe. But we'll have to fill Ford, beat marquee opponents, and show a real commitment (IPF, athlete friendly majors) to major college football before we can be seriously considered.

The Big 10 just nabbed Maryland. I am not sure that a commitment to winning football is a requirement. Neither is attendance. I read that there may have been an actual crowd of 10,000 at their game against Boston College last year (football). With any super-conference the dog will be wagging the attendance tail. I still say we make perfect sense for the SEC if they go to 16. Texas Aggie needs a Texan dance partner.

Maryland won the ACC and played in an Orange Bowl in the past decade, and legitimately delivers the DC market, which is huge and substantially differentiates them from our position.

legitimately delivers DC? not really

gostangs wrote:legitimately delivers DC? not really

Yeah, there's tons of Maryland fans in DC and the surrounding areas. Not to mention a lot of B10 alumni living in the area. Maryland makes a lot of sense for the B10 from the standpoint of expanding their reach and getting more eyeballs for their cable network

There are also a lot of ACC alums living in the DC area and I don't see them filling Maryland's stadium. They have one of the lowest football attendance figures in the ACC, a league that has some pretty low attendance. And I don't think that Maryland's football prowess is anything to brag about. 6 losing seasons in the last decade?

Topper wrote:There are also a lot of ACC alums living in the DC area and I don't see them filling Maryland's stadium. They have one of the lowest football attendance figures in the ACC, a league that has some pretty low attendance. And I don't think that Maryland's football prowess is anything to brag about. 6 losing seasons in the last decade?

Yeah, but UMD has a legitimate claim to the DC market, and their presence helps expand to BTN to cable subscribers in DC/Maryland/Virginia.

Want some entertainment? Watch SDSU fans make a case for SMU being invited by the PAC:

http://www.aztecmesa.proboards.com/inde ... read=27288

Comet wrote:Want some entertainment? Watch SDSU fans make a case for SMU being invited by the PAC:

http://www.aztecmesa.proboards.com/inde ... read=27288

Not a lot of love for us there mainly Houston. Which is weird but whatever they actually try for success.

One thing that I think is a positive here is that we can be "packaged" with UH. To a potential conference, we offer access to the Houston and DFW markets. No, we don't DELIVER the entire markets, but there has to be some allure to having a game on TV every week in either Houston or Dallas. Instant access to the two biggest cities in the state, thousands of recruits, and millions of viewers.

Additionally, I think we pair well with UH because we are so different. We are the upper-tier private school, and they are the large, state school. If we were paired with Rice or Tulsa, I'd be more worried.

StallionsModelT wrote:Look, all of this is purely hypothetical.

In the REAL WORLD, if the PAC feels compelled to get to 16 teams and is locked out from snagging UT/OU/Tech/OSU then there are simply too few other options available to them that make sense before they have to knock on SMU and Houston's door.

Again, however, there will be no PAC expansion unless it is agreed upon by all "super-conferences" that it will require 16 teams.

I think that is the whole point SMT. The blueprint to do this is already there. The NCAA recently secured an $11B agreement just to broadcast their BB tourney. Think of how much more $$$ they would make if there was a playoff system in FB.

Look at the NFL, what if there was no playoff system, but instead season-ending Bowls with voters determining who plays in the championship game. How much additional money and exposure would the NFL be leaving on the table if they took this route?

Oh, and one other point. If there was a playoff system in college FB, teams could schedule better OOC games as W/Ls wouldn't matter as much. I could see a return of traditional rivalries such as OU/NE and Texas/A&M. That would further diminish the non-BCS teams, or as Nick Saban has alluded to, remove them altogether. It would increase revenues while reducing who gets the slices of the pie; this is their ultimate end-game.

Good thoughts socalpony.

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SMUPhil wrote:One thing that I think is a positive here is that we can be "packaged" with UH. To a potential conference, we offer access to the Houston and DFW markets. No, we don't DELIVER the entire markets, but there has to be some allure to having a game on TV every week in either Houston or Dallas. Instant access to the two biggest cities in the state, thousands of recruits, and millions of viewers.

Additionally, I think we pair well with UH because we are so different. We are the upper-tier private school, and they are the large, state school. If we were paired with Rice or Tulsa, I'd be more worried.

Or we package with A&M. It wouldn't hurt the SEC to have a team in Dallas or the Aggies to have an in-state rival.

Meth is a hell of a drug, apparently

Topper wrote:

SMUPhil wrote:One thing that I think is a positive here is that we can be "packaged" with UH. To a potential conference, we offer access to the Houston and DFW markets. No, we don't DELIVER the entire markets, but there has to be some allure to having a game on TV every week in either Houston or Dallas. Instant access to the two biggest cities in the state, thousands of recruits, and millions of viewers.

Additionally, I think we pair well with UH because we are so different. We are the upper-tier private school, and they are the large, state school. If we were paired with Rice or Tulsa, I'd be more worried.

Or we package with A&M. It wouldn't hurt the SEC to have a team in Dallas or the Aggies to have an in-state rival.

SMU to SEC is not totally impossible but they can easily play a lot of games in Jerryworld without us

That's the key. Circle of Champions need to buy Jerryworld.