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Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:22 pm
by StallionsModelT
footballdad wrote:
03Mustang wrote:He's just saying there is a lot of smoke. No need to be an [deleted].


Asking a serious question you little punk. Do tell about the rumors around campus and smoke?


Man you are just a tub full of cuddly aren't you?

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:48 pm
by stc9
Stallion wrote:I know we are going to beat this to death for the next decade but in my memory only 1 school has ever fired its coach in the situation that SMU faced. I think Boston College. Too many to count haven't. Didn't work out great for either side at Boston College. Firing June would have been legally difficult, caused horrible anti-SMU publicity and the timing would have incredibly damaging due to the fact signing date was around the corner. If I had to bet money, my legal opinion is that SMU would have had to pay a large legal judgment or pay a large settlement buyout because SMU consented to allow Arizona St to negotiate with him. I wanted him gone for years but realize it was impractical at the time. However, both sides should have moved the earth to come to a mutually agreeable buyout last year though-both sides are now getting kicked in the nutts because of it

There was one significant difference. June was given permission to interview for the ASU job. The Boston College coach was explicitly told he was not allowed to interview for the other job.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:54 pm
by 03Mustang
footballdad wrote:
03Mustang wrote:He's just saying there is a lot of smoke. No need to be an [deleted].


Asking a serious question you little punk. Do tell about the rumors around campus and smoke?


I'm a little punk. Ok. :lol:

Been here and an SMU fan well before you, and I'll be here long after you're gone. Just another rass roll, I guess.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:55 pm
by ALEX LIFESON
Is Morris really the answer?

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:11 am
by gostangs
Yes. What do you doubt? I can't wait. Easiest turn around in the country.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:20 am
by 03Mustang
ALEX LIFESON wrote:Is Morris really the answer?


Why wouldn't he be a good choice? What would be a better move in your opinion?

I'll take a guy who wants to use us as a step up right now....to step up he has to make us good.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:00 am
by CoxMustangFan
gostangs wrote:Yes. What do you doubt? I can't wait. Easiest turn around in the country.


This. Recruit.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:22 am
by redpony
I have to really wonder if we will be able to get Morris or Herman. If we have to settle for a second tier coach then we are better off just shutting this debacle down.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:30 am
by gostangs
Word is we will hear something slightly sooner than we thought. This is not a hard turn around, and it will be great to get our coaching team in place to start showing the doom and gloomers how to be winners. It starts with attitude.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:45 am
by redpony
gostangs- if it really started with attitude then RGT and the CofC would have had the attitude that continuing with tiki beyond last year would not have been acceptable if we wanted to have 'reasonable' fball program this year.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:50 am
by couch 'em
Perhaps Morris asked us to wait a year for some reason.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:59 am
by 03Mustang
redpony wrote:gostangs- if it really started with attitude then RGT and the CofC would have had the attitude that continuing with tiki beyond last year would not have been acceptable if we wanted to have 'reasonable' fball program this year.


One thing is for sure, if it starts with attitude you will be the last one moving. You are the anti-ponyboy.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:03 am
by Big12Mustang
gostangs wrote:Word is we will hear something slightly sooner than we thought. This is not a hard turn around, and it will be great to get our coaching team in place to start showing the doom and gloomers how to be winners. It starts with attitude.


This.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:15 am
by ALEX LIFESON
03Mustang wrote:
ALEX LIFESON wrote:Is Morris really the answer?


Why wouldn't he be a good choice? What would be a better move in your opinion?

I'll take a guy who wants to use us as a step up right now....to step up he has to make us good.


I never said he wouldn't be a good choice. Besides his success in high school (aka Todd Dodge), his offense hasn't exactly been blowing up scoreboards, and yes I'm aware of the qb injury. Phil Bennett was a very successful coordinator, not so good as a head coach. It would be a gamble, there is no evidence to go by. He has never put together a staff or run a program, beyond high school five years ago. I will pull for whomever gets the job, but we better make the right hire, it could be our last at this level.

Re: Clemson rumor - Morris to SMU, Riley(ECU) to Clemson as

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:55 am
by SMU21TCU10
I feel like the Clemson offense has underperformed with Morris at the helm given the talent they recruit. I do not think we will get anyone better, I just don't think he is our Gary Patterson. Maybe I will be wrong though.

More than half of Clemson fans I have asked on message boards pretty much said "you can have him". I would rather get a coach that the fanbase will actually be bummed to lose him.