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Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:06 am
by sbsmith
Rebel10 wrote:
And Tulsa's Bill Young is an experienced DC. Not saying he is a good DC but he has experience.
He also has a Co-DC with experience. Experience doesn't mean much when you don't have any talent.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:50 am
by Pony Boss
blackoutpony wrote:Digetydog wrote:Rebel10 wrote:I just think everyone should wait until next year before judging Malone.
BTW - I am not suggesting that Malone should be fired. He inherited a mess. But, I would like Morris/Hart to see if they could find some money to get Malone some experienced help.
Bill Young was our D Line coach for like two weeks, before Tulsa hired him as their DC. He was a former DC himself and he supposed to be the seasoned veteran to help out Malone. Guess that didn't exactly work out.
This. I think the issue was that Van Malone is a great recruiter, and the only way to have him come over is as a defensive coordinator, so that was non negotiable from the start...Bill Young as DC and Malone as Secondary coach would have been the best scenario but if Bill Young was the DC, Malone would not be here since it would have been a lateral/slightly downward move. Can't say Chad didn't try...
Same for OC...I think Chad wanted Jeff Scott, now Clemson OC to be our OC/WR coach and Craddock as our QB coach.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:18 pm
by Digetydog
Pony Boss wrote:This. I think the issue was that Van Malone is a great recruiter, and the only way to have him come over is as a defensive coordinator, so that was non negotiable from the start...Bill Young as DC and Malone as Secondary coach would have been the best scenario but if Bill Young was the DC, Malone would not be here since it would have been a lateral/slightly downward move. Can't say Chad didn't try...
Same for OC...I think Chad wanted Jeff Scott, now Clemson OC to be our OC/WR coach and Craddock as our QB coach.
99% of the time, a mistake by an offensive player (or his coach) results in something no worse than a loss of yardage (sack/penalty/stuffed run/etc).
Unfortunately, recruiting only gets a defense so far as mistakes by players (or coaches) often results in a TD for the other team. Regardless of what happens on the coaching front, next year's team is going to be very young. Hopefully, our defensive staff figures out how to protect them with schemes/techniques.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:20 pm
by Rebel10
Bill Young did not do very well at Tulsa this year in case you had not noticed. See sbsmith's comment.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:58 pm
by Pony Boss
Rebel10 wrote:Bill Young did not do very well at Tulsa this year in case you had not noticed. See sbsmith's comment.
SMU's biggest problem for the past 30 years has been talent as well. Once that is figured out, our coaches will look like geniouses
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:01 pm
by smupony94
SMU dominates
2015 AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE FOOTBALL AWARDS
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Keenan Reynolds, QB, Navy (Sr., Antioch, Tenn.)
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Tyler Matakevich, LB, Temple (Sr., Stratford, Conn.)
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Jake Elliott, K, Memphis (Jr., Western Spring, Ill.)
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Tre'Quan Smith, WR, UCF (Fr., Delray Beach, Fla.)
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE COACHES OF THE YEAR
Tom Herman, Houston
Ken Niumatalolo, Navy
ALL-CONFERENCE FIRST TEAM
Pos. Player School Cl. Ht. Wt. Hometown/Last School
WR Demarcus Ayers 1 Houston Jr. 5-11 190 Lancaster, Texas/Lancaster
WR Keyarris Garrett 2 Tulsa Sr. 6-4 221 Daingerfield, Texas/Daingerfield
OT Parker Ehinger 1 Cincinnati Sr. 6-7 318 Rockford, Mich./Rockford
OT Taylor Fallin Memphis Sr. 6-6 330 Bowie, Md./Bowie
OG E.K. Binns Navy Sr. 6-3 295 Cape Coral, Fla./Island Coast
OG Eric Lofton Temple Sr. 6-5 302 Lumberton, N.J./Rancocas Valley
C Kyle Friend 2 Temple Sr. 6-2 305 Carlisle, Pa./Cumberland Valley
TE Bryce Williams 2 East Carolina Sr. 6-6 258 Winston-Salem, N.C./Marshall
QB Paxton Lynch 2 Memphis Jr. 6-7 245 Deltona, Fla./Trinity Christian Academy
QB Keenan Reynolds Navy Sr. 5-11 205 Antioch, Tenn./Goodpasture Christian
RB Marlon Mack 1 USF So. 6-0 195 Sarasota, Fla./Booker
RB Jahad Thomas Temple Jr. 5-10 180 Elizabeth, N.J./Elizabeth
K Jake Elliott 1 1 Memphis Jr. 5-10 165 Western Springs, Ill./Lyons Township
RS Demarcus Ayers Houston Jr. 5-11 190 Lancaster, Texas/Lancaster
DL Will Anthony Navy Sr. 6-1 254 Jacksonville, Fla./Trinity Christian
DL Matt Ioannidis 2 Temple Sr. 6-4 292 Ringoes, N.J./Hunterdon Central
DL Nate D. Smith Temple Sr. 6-0 236 Highland Park, N.J./Fork Union
DL Tanzel Smart Tulane Jr. 6-1 304 Baton Rouge, La./Scotlandville Magnet
LB Zeek Bigger 2 East Carolina Sr. 6-2 216 Gastonia, N.C./Ashbrook
LB Elandon Roberts Houston Sr. 6-0 235 Port Arthur, Texas/Morgan State
LB Tyler Matakevich * 1 1 Temple Sr. 6-1 232 Stratford, Conn./St. Joseph's
LB Nico Marley H Tulane Jr. 5-10 208 Weston, Fla./Cypress Bay
CB Jamar Summers UConn So. 6-0 185 Orange, N.J./Orange
CB Deatrick Nichols USF So. 5-10 189 Miami, Fla./Miami Central
S Trevon Stewart 2 Houston Sr. 5-10 195 Patterson, La./Patterson
S Alex Wells Temple Sr. 6-0 203 Baltimore, Md./Overlea
P Spencer Smith 2 Memphis So. 6-1 195 Newnan, Ga./East Coweta
ALL-CONFERENCE SECOND TEAM
Pos. Player School Cl. Ht. Wt. Hometown/Last School
WR Shaq Washington Cincinnati Sr. 5-9 179 Maple Heights, Ohio/Maple Heights
WR Isaiah Jones East Carolina Jr. 6-1 197 Austin, Texas/Stephen F. Austin
OT Alex Cooper Houston Sr. 6-4 305 Bellaire, Texas/Second Baptist
OT Dion Dawkins Temple Jr. 6-5 318 Rahway, N.J./Rahway
OG Ryan Leahy Cincinnati Jr. 6-6 292 Cincinnati, Ohio/La Salle
OG Thor Jozwiak USF Sr. 6-4 318 Eagle Lake, Fla./Lake Region
C Deyshawn Bond Cincinnati Jr. 6-1 291 Indianapolis, Ind./Warren Central
TE Sean Price USF Sr. 6-3 252 Citra, Fla./North Marion
QB Greg Ward Jr. Houston Jr. 5-11 185 Tyler, Texas/John Tyler
RB Kenneth Farrow 2 Houston Sr. 5-10 220 Hurst, Texas/L.D. Bell
RB Chris Swain Navy Sr. 6-1 245 Macon, Ga./Mount de Sales Academy
K Andrew Gantz 2 Cincinnati So. 5-9 170 Dayton, Ohio/Centerville
RS Rodney Adams USF Jr. 6-1 190 St. Petersburg, Fla./Toledo
DL Silverberry Mouhon 2 Cincinnati Sr. 6-3 255 Norcross, Ga./Norcross
DL Julian Campenni UConn Sr. 6-0 306 West Pittston, Pa./Wyoming Area
DL B.J. Singleton Houston Jr. 6-4 305 Destrehan, La./Destrehan
DL Eric Lee USF Sr. 6-3 260 Daphne, Ala./Daphne
LB Eric Wilson Cincinnati Jr. 6-2 219 Redford, Mich./Northwestern
LB Montese Overton East Carolina Sr. 6-3 221 Greenville, N.C./South Central
LB Steven Taylor Houston Jr. 6-1 225 Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill
LB Auggie Sanchez USF So. 6-2 244 St. Petersburg, Fla./Northeast
CB William Jackson III 2 Houston Sr. 6-2 195 Houston, Texas/Trinity Valley CC
CB Sean Chandler Temple So. 5-11 185 Camden, N.J./Camden
S Andrew Adams UConn Sr. 6-0 198 Fayetteville, Ga./Woodward Academy
S Adrian McDonald 1 Houston Sr. 5-11 205 Lawton, Okla./Eisenhower
P Caleb Houston UCF Jr. 6-1 210 Cleveland, Tenn./Walker Valley
P Mattias Ciabatti 1 USF Sr. 6-0 200 Tampa, Fla./Hillsborough
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:08 pm
by Stallion
too bad Sutton didn't receive honors but he undeniably tailed off in last half of the season
now could you rate our talent at each position in categories of "Above Average" "Average" and "Below Average"---when you get some time
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:13 pm
by PerunasHoof
Too bad the best Mascot can't get honored. At least we would win there.
That's pathetic.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:19 pm
by sbsmith
Thanks June
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:29 pm
by 3rdGenPony
Surprised we were totally shut out at first. Even UCF has someone on the list. But looking at it, I don't know where you could argue we should have someone included. Ouch!
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:02 pm
by Hoop Fan
But Tulane's Defense has 2 first teamers? The defense that SMU scored 49 points on? Seems like a bit of a joke. Don't at all see how that Nico Marley kid is a first teamer. Whether voting or stats bear it out, Courtland was second team worthy. Hedlund was worthy.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:10 pm
by Digetydog
I think that it was funny that PonyFans displayed an advertisement for Depends when I opened this thread.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:11 pm
by smupony94
What are you searching on Google?
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:13 pm
by Digetydog
3rdGenPony wrote:Surprised we were totally shut out at first. Even UCF has someone on the list. But looking at it, I don't know where you could argue we should have someone included. Ouch!
I wasn't surprised. We had no standouts on defense. On offense, we had an OK QB, two freshman RB's who fumbled a lot, and Sutton.
Re: Job One After Todays Beatdown
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:39 pm
by PonySnob
Hoop Fan wrote:But Tulane's Defense has 2 first teamers? The defense that SMU scored 49 points on? Seems like a bit of a joke. Don't at all see how that Nico Marley kid is a first teamer. Whether voting or stats bear it out, Courtland was second team worthy. Hedlund was worthy.
Game of the year for SMU offense. Much like when Texas played OU.