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I remember being slightly over served at that game, being pissed we lost, but feeling a tiny bit ok about it while laughing as I got to watch the TCU police mace their own kind. If I only would have known what the next 14 years had in store for our two teams, I probably wouldn't have laughed that much.

I need a time machine.

edit: You can't say [deleted]*ed on here? Can i say it if i was talking about urination?

TCU has a signed contract with the Big East. They do. Wishing won't make it so. 'Cuse and Pitt leaving doesn't get them out, despite what some hope. Only total implosion of BE gets them out in less than 27 months. total implosion of BE is still unlikely.

Dooby wrote:TCU has a signed contract with the Big East. They do. Wishing won't make it so. 'Cuse and Pitt leaving doesn't get them out, despite what some hope. Only total implosion of BE gets them out in less than 27 months. total implosion of BE is still unlikely.

Killerfrogs says that the TCU admin says its non-binding because they don't officially enter the league till next season.

If Boren is talking true (geographically contiguous) then we MIGHT have a chance if they decide to go to 12. However, if you add 3 Texas teams to the conference you would have to put OU and Texas in different divisions. I don't think OU or Texas wants that.

Why wouldnt OU and UT want to be in different divisions...otherwise u cant pair them up in division championship...

B/c that kills the TX-OU annual game. I don't think they'd want to go give that up just for the sake of adding SMU and Houston. But if they want to get to 12 teams and truly Cincinnati, Louisville, BYU, and Air Force are not viable candidates, they may not have many other realistic options.

StallionsModelT wrote:if you add 3 Texas teams to the conference you would have to put OU and Texas in different divisions.

Depends on how creative you get in gerrymandering the divisions. Politicians do it all the time. Instead of North/South you could do what the Big 10 did and give the different divisions weird names.

So it would look like this?

North

Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

South

Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
SMU
Houston

Big ten separated but kept rivalry games...then you also get to sell that UT OU could meet twice a year with BCS/national championship hopes on the line...

The Big 12 can split the divisions up anyway they want. Each team in the SEC has a permanent cross-divisional rival. As an example, Auburn (west) plays Georgia (east) annually. UT and OU could do the same and still meet in the championship game later in the season. They could also stick Baylor and TCU in the North if they wish.

The benefit of 12 teams is that the teams would only have to play 8 conference games and play 4 non-conference games. This would enable UT to have an additional non-conference home game and more money. It would also reduce the number of games against the likes of Iowa State and Kansas State from the other division, a stated goal.

stick smu in the north. no concession is too great. let ou be in the south

get real-OU and OSU would vote down any move to the North. Folks its spelled recruiting and its the lifeblood of these Oklahoma schools. You can post all kinds of delusions and scenarios-it all comes down to recruiting Texas.

Then shouldnt we be in a conference that doesnt have texas ties???

I agree, OU and OSU to the north only works if they add 3 texas schools. If they do, then they get similar access they have now to Texas (2 games in some years, 1 in others). OU has the permanent Texas game in Dallas. Flip it around though, do they really want to go to 2 divisions and have OU and Texas never able to play in the champ game? I suppose one jinky thing they could do is ignore the division winners and have the two highest ranked schools meet in the champ game. basically the divisions just become a scheduling framework for keeping local rivalries.

The way you would do it is the SEC comparison w/ Georgia and Auburn. TX-OU continues annually plus the Big 12 would probably love to see the financial windfall of the damn near certain rematch every year in the B12 Championship Game.