According to ESPN: SMU target of BE, not AFA

that's great raplh · Post by **that's great raplh** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:47 am

Div 3 just like pye wanted

ColoStang · Post by **ColoStang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:48 am

smubrooks wrote:Big East considering expanding to 12 on ESPN. SMU not mentioned

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ll-schools

This article is 100% speculative, not worried that we're not mentioned.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:58 am

Big East wants 12 members, but who will it get?

Posted on: October 10, 2011 12:42 pm
Edited on: October 10, 2011 12:51 pm

Big East presidents and chancellors Monday authorized Big East commissioner John Marinatto "to engage in formal discussions with additional institutions and are considering moving to a model that includes 12 football playing schools."
Now the question is: what schools will make up those 12?

With TCU gone before it even got here and Pittsburgh and Syracuse headed to the ACC in 2014 (and they hope even earlier than that), that leaves six football members - Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia.

For now.

That number could reduce further if Missouri goes to the SEC. Louisville and West Virginia is considered the strongest candidates for the Big 12 now that BYU apparently is no longer as highly regarded by the Big 12.

Navy, Air Force and Army remain the prime targets of the Big East as football only members. However, with the news that the Big East is pursuing 12 football schools, if the league went to a nine-game league schedule, that actually might not be an attractive option for the academies having only three non-conference games.

Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk told CBSSports.com Monday the Midshipmen continue to monitor the Big East and that joining the league remains an option.

Other Big East targets are Temple, of the Mid-American Conference, and a number of Conference USA schools headed by Central Florida and East Carolina.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported Sunday that Boise State was a possibility as a football-only member. Last month in a Big East presidents meeting, the Broncos were brought up as an expansion candidate, but the consensus was the school was too far away and there were concerns with their recent NCAA issues, a source said.

However, that was before TCU announced it received a Big 12 invitation, which the Horned Frogs will formally accept Monday night. Does that mean the Big East is warming to Boise State - or that desparate for members?

As far as any problems in having a 12-team football conference and a resulting basketball membership of up to 20 schools, a league source told me the size of the basketball membership is not a concern.

"You can have 50 teams in basketball (in the conference)," the source said. "It doesn't matter. That's why they have the NCAA tournament."

The reality for the Big East is, other than continuing to pursue the academies, it must wait to see what happens with Missouri and the Big 12/SEC and the resulting dominos before proceeding further.

During Monday’s teleconference, the presidents were "still discussing appropriate figures" for increased withdrawal fees, an individual on the call told CBSSports.com.

The withdrawal fee is currently $5 million and a school must provide 27 months notice.

Last month Marinatto told CBSSports.com that the league will not allow Syracuse and Pitt to leave before their 27-month withdrawal requirement expires, keeping them in Big East until June 30, 2014.

On Saturday, Air Force athletic director Hans Mueh told the Denver Post "our interest is high in the Big East. That's fair to say. This stuff is moving fast."

Air Force has to decide whether to remain in a comfortable situation in the Mountain West or leave for an uncertain future in the Big East, once an automatic qualifying BCS league that may or may not still be an AQ BCS conference when the new BCS cycle begins before the 2014 season.

Even with the league holding a second conference call in four days among officials from representative from the remaining Big East schools, there wasn’t much accomplished said one frustrated individual on the call.

"Nothing accomplished," he said.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:59 am

Maybe you can make a push by having the academies and to counter the fact they only get 3 out of conference games, you could entice them by adding more national locations...

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:05 pm

This is unique with all those private BB schools. I gotta think that's a big advantage for SMU

BRStang · Post by **BRStang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:06 pm

Uh-oh, the headline has now been changed...geez...

Big East Expansion: Where will conference find a half-dozen teams?

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leopold · Post by **leopold** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:10 pm

RednBlue11 wrote:they mizzou accounts for 15-20% of the B12 TV market

According to the 2010 Census (http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/index.php) the states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas account for about 31.5M people. Missouri has 5.9M. Without a calculator that's about 6/37.4, or a little under 17%.

I know that not everybody in KC cares about MU - I realize that. But not everyone in Kansas cares about the Jayhawks or Wildcats, either - some will care about the Tigers. Plus, you lose a flagship university, the sole FBS school in a state, and a nationally recognizable brand.

Point is, IT'S GOING TO HURT. You've lost Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, and Texas A&M, and you replace them with TCU? C'mon. They may very well be forced back to the negotiating table because of the loses. They may be forced to bring in mulitple schools at that point to salvage any semblence of a TV contract.

goldenstang · Post by **goldenstang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:11 pm

It's going to be more than half a dozen if Missouri goes sec

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:12 pm

Samurai Stang wrote:
RednBlue11 wrote:they mizzou accounts for 15-20% of the B12 TV market

I am curious to see how the SEC votes regarding the matter of Missouri. Missouri has made it known that they would happily leave for the Big 10 at any moment, and one would think that may make the SEC presidents wary of adding them. If the SEC adds Missouri, knowing their long-term intent to leave, it gives the Big 10 the ability to prove itself the dominant conference by raiding another that would also lay claim to the title.

Missouri offers short-term gain, but will eventually leave, and perhaps take some of the SEC's prestige with it.

I agree with you. I've told my SEC buddies they need to steer clear of Mizzou for those exact reasons.

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:30 pm

Let's say the BE is getting blackballed by ESPN schools. Fox/CBSC/Comcast/NBC are the BE benefactors and CUSA benefactors and MWC benefactors. Its time for these guysto get into the bidding a bit here. If they make the BE contract really competitive so that school like Louisville are looking at a cut in money to move to the Big XII guess what?

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:36 pm

EastStang wrote:Let's say the BE is getting blackballed by ESPN schools. Fox/CBSC/Comcast/NBC are the BE benefactors and CUSA benefactors and MWC benefactors. Its time for these guysto get into the bidding a bit here. If they make the BE contract really competitive so that school like Louisville are looking at a cut in money to move to the Big XII guess what?

BigTXII's contract is with FSN.

peruna11 · Post by **peruna11** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:36 pm

Latest update at noon drops SMU from the list entirely.

"Navy, Air Force and Army have been mentioned as football-only members. UCF, Temple, East Carolina and Memphis have been mentioned as full members. There also is the possibility that Villanova jumps up to the FBS level to take a spot as well."

smubrooks · Post by **smubrooks** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:41 pm

any word from EJ on our move to the SEC? or has he been locked away to keep the story from breaking?

NavyCrimson · Post by **NavyCrimson** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:41 pm

Sorry if already posted: http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... ially.html

BRStang · Post by **BRStang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:48 pm

Was Orsini on another Costco run when the BE tried to call him about inclusion and so they just moved on to other schools?