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mrydel wrote:That's the key. Circle of Champions need to buy Jerryworld.

Or we can threaten to kick Gene Jones off our board of trustees until Jerry stops scheduling SEC games in the Death Star

CalallenStang wrote:

mrydel wrote:That's the key. Circle of Champions need to buy Jerryworld.

Or we can threaten to kick Gene Jones off our board of trustees until Jerry stops scheduling SEC games in the Death Star

Or starts scheduling SMU games there. SMU-Arkansas, SMU-LSU, SMU-Bama, SMU-Tennessee, whatever.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

CalallenStang wrote:

mrydel wrote:That's the key. Circle of Champions need to buy Jerryworld.

Or we can threaten to kick Gene Jones off our board of trustees until Jerry stops scheduling SEC games in the Death Star

Or starts scheduling SMU games there. SMU-Arkansas, SMU-LSU, SMU-Bama, SMU-Tennessee, whatever.

SMU A&M would be the good one.

Comet wrote:SMU A&M would be the good one.

Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

If we had played them later in the season, we would have had a full house. They didn't expect to be this good or that Johnny Football would take country by storm. SMU bad luck holds true to form.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

Comet wrote:SMU A&M would be the good one.

Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

Who in Dallas knew (or cared) about that game? I didn't until I saw it on tv. Jerryworld has run its course, which says a lot.

Aggies would sell 45k by themselves.

SoCal_Pony wrote:

StallionsModelT wrote:Look, all of this is purely hypothetical.

In the REAL WORLD, if the PAC feels compelled to get to 16 teams and is locked out from snagging UT/OU/Tech/OSU then there are simply too few other options available to them that make sense before they have to knock on SMU and Houston's door.

Again, however, there will be no PAC expansion unless it is agreed upon by all "super-conferences" that it will require 16 teams.

I think that is the whole point SMT. The blueprint to do this is already there. The NCAA recently secured an $11B agreement just to broadcast their BB tourney. Think of how much more $$$ they would make if there was a playoff system in FB.

Look at the NFL, what if there was no playoff system, but instead season-ending Bowls with voters determining who plays in the championship game. How much additional money and exposure would the NFL be leaving on the table if they took this route?

Oh, and one other point. If there was a playoff system in college FB, teams could schedule better OOC games as W/Ls wouldn't matter as much. I could see a return of traditional rivalries such as OU/NE and Texas/A&M. That would further diminish the non-BCS teams, or as Nick Saban has alluded to, remove them altogether. It would increase revenues while reducing who gets the slices of the pie; this is their ultimate end-game.

Any system in which wins and losses don't matter as much has to be great

smusic 00 wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote:

Comet wrote:SMU A&M would be the good one.

Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

Who in Dallas knew (or cared) about that game? I didn't until I saw it on tv. Jerryworld has run its course, which says a lot.

Aggies would sell 45k by themselves.

They certainly didn't sell 45k by themselves on Sept 15 at Ford

East Coast Mustang wrote:

smusic 00 wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote: Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

Who in Dallas knew (or cared) about that game? I didn't until I saw it on tv. Jerryworld has run its course, which says a lot.

Aggies would sell 45k by themselves.

They certainly didn't sell 45k by themselves on Sept 15 at Ford

True, but I bet they would if we had played after the Alabama game.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

smusic 00 wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote: Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

Who in Dallas knew (or cared) about that game? I didn't until I saw it on tv. Jerryworld has run its course, which says a lot.

Aggies would sell 45k by themselves.

They certainly didn't sell 45k by themselves on Sept 15 at Ford

Good point.

This thread proves that the weed you people in Texas are smoking is as good as the weed in California, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. which is a better argument for us being in the PAC 12 than any stated in this chain.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

CalallenStang wrote:

mrydel wrote:That's the key. Circle of Champions need to buy Jerryworld.

Or we can threaten to kick Gene Jones off our board of trustees until Jerry stops scheduling SEC games in the Death Star

Or starts scheduling SMU games there. SMU-Arkansas, SMU-LSU, SMU-Bama, SMU-Tennessee, whatever.

Us playing there does not counter the others playing there. As long as the others have a Dallas showcase, then SMU has no place at the big boy table. We need to find a way to keep the outsiders, outside. We need to "own" Dallas so we have some worth to outside suitors. We need for them to use us as the conduit to exposure in North Central Texas.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

Comet wrote:SMU A&M would be the good one.

Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

It couldn't even sell out Ford this year and it's hard to believe tickets would be any cheaper than what we charged.

PonySnob wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote:

Comet wrote:SMU A&M would be the good one.

Yeah, let's do it. Saw Baylor-Tech drew about 45,000 on Saturday. I wonder what SMU-A&M would draw?

It couldn't even sell out Ford this year and it's hard to believe tickets would be any cheaper than what we charged.

Oh I agree with all of this, but keep in mind, people go to Jerry World to experience Jerry World.

If the PAC expands - they will expand to SMU and Houston, as long as Texahoma is off the table. Right?

Positives:
1.SMU and Houston both top 5 media markets
2.Recruiting grounds
3.Time zone increase - More games on TV (live)
4.SMU & Houston together make a dent on Texas together. Alone, not so much
5.Reach PAC alums in Texas
6.Both SMU and UH are on the rise academically and athletically (SMU - 4 bowls, 4 years / Larry Brown / academically #58 in Forbes. UH - Teir 1 Carnegie Research / Top 25 Bball recruiting class / Football team has national exposure)
7. Expansion is keeping up with the Jone's
8. SMU / UH are the PAC's next best options outside Texahoma
9. PAC NETWORK TV HOUSEHOLDS
Negatives:
1.SMU & UH could be seen as 'failures' of the Texahoma deal - like a 'participation' trophy
2. More mouths to feed
3. SMU is a small private school / UH is an ugly, large, city named school. (I guess UCLA could count as that too though?)
4. Not necissarily connected to PAC region
5.The schools are not 'athletic powerhouses' like a Texas