State law vs. NCAA law
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:57 pm
brilliant. And go all black w June unis to pay homage to Johnny Cash and assure the NCAA they're not being mockedmrydel wrote:I think they should change their name to the Fighting Sues.
The staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor," NCAA senior vice president Bernard Franklin said in a statement released Tuesday. "The decision of a namesake sovereign tribe, regarding when and how its name and imagery can be used, must be respected even when others may not agree."
From the Article:jtstang wrote:Can you say "double standard"?
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... oved_x.htm
The staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor," NCAA senior vice president Bernard Franklin said in a statement released Tuesday. "The decision of a namesake sovereign tribe, regarding when and how its name and imagery can be used, must be respected even when others may not agree."
Sounds like the NCAA was willing to make the same concession they made for FSU.In a letter to UND President Robert Kelley, Franklin said the university must follow an agreement it made in October 2007 to discontinue using the nickname and logo by Aug. 15, 2011, unless it received approval from North Dakota's Spirit Lake and Standing Rock Sioux tribes.
Spirit Lake tribal members endorsed the nickname and logo in a referendum, and the tribe's governing council followed. The Standing Rock Sioux's tribal council, which has long opposed the nickname, has declined to change its stand.
From RGV's post above, FSU had approval from one Seminole tribe but not the other, but was still allowed to use the name. North Dakota had approval from one Sioux tribe but not the other, and is not being allowed to use it.abezontar wrote: Sounds like the NCAA was willing to make the same concession they made for FSU.
I see two issues, the first, I imagine the fact that you are dealing with two in state tribes with NDU and only one in state tribe with FSU plays a factor. The second, with NDU one tribe said yes, one tribe said no. With FSU, one tribe said yes, the other tribe, located in Oklahoma said we don't care to make an official statement one way or another. The quote from the Oklahoma tribe was from one council elder who explicitly said he spoke for himself and not the whole tribal council. So, they may not be applying the smae standard to all schools, i.e. Notre Dame, but I don't think this is as simple as the NCAA is bad and everything they do is evil (at least not in this specific situation).couch 'em wrote:From RGV's post above, FSU had approval from one Seminole tribe but not the other, but was still allowed to use the name. North Dakota had approval from one Sioux tribe but not the other, and is not being allowed to use it.abezontar wrote: Sounds like the NCAA was willing to make the same concession they made for FSU.
Did only Indiana leprechauns vote on the ND referendum?abezontar wrote:I see two issues, the first, I imagine the fact that you are dealing with two in state tribes with NDU and only one in state tribe with FSU plays a factor. The second, with NDU one tribe said yes, one tribe said no. With FSU, one tribe said yes, the other tribe, located in Oklahoma said we don't care to make an official statement one way or another. The quote from the Oklahoma tribe was from one council elder who explicitly said he spoke for himself and not the whole tribal council. So, they may not be applying the smae standard to all schools, i.e. Notre Dame, but I don't think this is as simple as the NCAA is bad and everything they do is evil (at least not in this specific situation).couch 'em wrote:From RGV's post above, FSU had approval from one Seminole tribe but not the other, but was still allowed to use the name. North Dakota had approval from one Sioux tribe but not the other, and is not being allowed to use it.abezontar wrote: Sounds like the NCAA was willing to make the same concession they made for FSU.