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Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:35 pm
by stampedesbabyboy
These guys were not highly rated out of high-school and some were walk-ons. Wait a few years before you call somebody GREAT or Ridicule them...
2010 TCU Seniors in NFL Training Camps
Marcus Cannon (OT, fifth-round pick, New England Patriots)
Andy Dalton (QB, second-round pick, Cincinnati Bengals)
Evan Frosch (TE, free agent, Cleveland Browns)
Kelly Griffin (NT, free agent, San Diego Chargers)
Bart Johnson (WR, free agent, Cincinnati Bengals)
Colin Jones (S, sixth-round pick, San Francisco 49ers
Jeremy Kerley (WR, fifth-round pick, New York Jets)
Jake Kirkpatrick (C, free agent, Indianapolis Colts)
Jason Teague (CB, free agent, Houston Texans)
Malcolm Williams (CB, seventh-round pick, New England Patriots)
Jimmy Young (WR, free agent, Chicago Bears)
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:29 pm
by Stallion
I see 2 Four Stars and 6 Three Stars under the Old UNINFLATED Rivals rating system. The new Rivals system inflates the number of 3+ stars by as much as 80-100%. Most of those kids would be 5.7 at least under the new system-several more would be 3 stars under current system. In the 2006 Class SMU signed 2 Three Stars and in 2007 4 Three Stars total -TCU kicked our [deleted] in recruiting and on the field. Why don''t you go back and check how much I praised TCU's recruiting during the years they came to TCU. That TCU 2006 Class was ridiculously underranked and I was one of the few to say it at the time-
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:16 pm
by PonyKai
You don't want to have this argument, you'll lose.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:59 pm
by Peruna 2K5
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:You don't want to have this argument, you'll lose.
hahaha
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:48 am
by SMU 86
Jeremy Kerley was a highly rated 4 star players coming out of high school and arguably one of the most valuable players on the team if mot the most valuable. A true game breaker for TCU. It does seem like the TCU's coaches are a bit more aggressive in recruiting than most of ours. But that is just my opinion.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:51 am
by mrydel
SMU 86 wrote:Jeremy Kerly was a high;y rated 4 star players coming out of high school.
Pretty sure he found a fifth star to bring with him whenever he played us.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:10 am
by SMU 86
mrydel wrote:SMU 86 wrote:Jeremy Kerly was a high;y rated 4 star players coming out of high school.
Pretty sure he found a fifth star to bring with him whenever he played us.
LOL. Yep, when schools start getting 4 or 5 star talent at a school it's not a lot of difference between the two, both tend to be impact players. Glad we are starting to see more 3 star kids come to SMU. Maybe we can catch aTm off guard this year while they my be overconfident. BEAT aTm.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:15 pm
by Junior
so what's the point of this thread? to compare our class to TCU's 5 years ago?
this is stupid.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:48 pm
by Junior
I've added Rivals stars below:
stampedesbabyboy wrote:These guys were not highly rated out of high-school and some were walk-ons. Wait a few years before you call somebody GREAT or Ridicule them...
2010 TCU Seniors in NFL Training Camps
3 stars - Marcus Cannon (OT, fifth-round pick, New England Patriots)
3 stars - Andy Dalton (QB, second-round pick, Cincinnati Bengals)
3 stars - Evan Frosch (TE, free agent, Cleveland Browns)
3 stars - Kelly Griffin (NT, free agent, San Diego Chargers)
Bart Johnson (WR, free agent, Cincinnati Bengals)
3 stars - Colin Jones (S, sixth-round pick, San Francisco 49ers
4 stars - Jeremy Kerley (WR, fifth-round pick, New York Jets)
2 stars - Jake Kirkpatrick (C, free agent, Indianapolis Colts)
3 stars - Jason Teague (CB, free agent, Houston Texans)
4 stars - Malcolm Williams (CB, seventh-round pick, New England Patriots)
2 stars - Jimmy Young (WR, free agent, Chicago Bears)
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:49 pm
by Junior
i only count 1 walkon.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:57 pm
by SMU 86
That a pretty nicely rated class. Definitely a good looking recruiting class from the start IMO.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:59 pm
by Stallion
actually TCU got 5 players out of the Rivals Texas Top 100 in 2006 although two don't graduate until 2011-more if you count the kids that really didn't contribute-the Renfro kid for example. The 2011 graduates are Wayne Daniels who made some All-American teams and Braylon Broughton. When is the last time SMU had 6 Texas Top 100 players to develop? The next time we do-if ever- we'll probably do just fine. SMU barely offered 6 Texas Top 100 kids
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:16 pm
by SMU 86
SMU would love to have two 4 start kids in the class and the rest be mostly 3 star kids.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:59 pm
by PonyKai
Stallion wrote:The next time we do-if ever- we'll probably do just fine. SMU barely offered 6 Texas Top 100 kids
That's actually a pretty nice point to make, although I'm sure it will draw the ire of a few.
Re: Rate these players........Stallion
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:59 pm
by West Coast Johnny
Malcolm Williams, Jason Teague & Jeremy Kerley were all highly regarded out of high school with many options. But so is Gabriel Marks.
The rest of the guys on this list were recruited by CUSA & the bottom of the Big 12. In similar demand to many SMU recruits right now. In terms of competing offers and the choices a recuit had, I would say that TCU's recruiting then was better than SMU's recruiting now - but not that big of a difference.
I would say that it is TCU's player development that got those guys into the NFL, not anything they brought with them out of highschool.