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Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:34 am
by JesuitPony
I need to settle a bet regarding the story of Peruna I killing the Fordham ram. SMUMustangs.com ran a story in which it states (incorrectly, I believe) that Peruna I killed the Fordham
goat mascot.
Since then Peruna I traveled by city cab while in New York City for the Fordham game. He later killed the Fordham goat mascot with a swift kick to the head when he wandered too close. Peruna V stayed in Chicago's posh Stevens Hotel but showed his wilder side when he kicked out his boxcar stall while traveling to Lubbock for an SMU- Texas Tech game.
http://smumustangs.cstv.com/genrel/101211aaa.htmlI thought the Fordham mascot was a ram? Is that just urban legend or was the old Fordham mascot a goat made to look like a ram? I know this is a stupid question, but I have a lunch riding on the outcome.
Beat the [Gary Patterson] out of UCF.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:46 am
by peruna11
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:54 am
by JesuitPony
Awesome. This should help my argument. I'll be in Tallahassee later this month and will try to stop in to see the "Goat Man" of Wakulla County. Pictures to follow.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:03 am
by peruna11
sorry, had to jump on the smart ace response...
But, I think you win buddy - Live Ram from 1925 - 1969. Can't find anything with a date of the killing, but it sounds like your debate operates under the assumption it took place.
http://www.fordham.edu/images/whats_new/magazine/fall08/theram.pdf Just as ancient Egypt had its great pharaohs, Fordham had its live rams. For the better part of five decades, the Rose Hill campus was host to more than 20 mascots—all named Ramses. The original, Ramses I, was reportedly borrowed from a New Jersey farm in 1925 by a group of Fordham students who thought a live animal would give the home team an extra boost. Not coincidentally, the live mascot’s heyday came during the golden age of Fordham football—from the mid-1920s to the early 1940s. Of all the celebrated rams of Rose Hill, perhaps Ramses VIII had the most exciting tenure as Fordham mascot.
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The last of the live mascots, Ramses XXI, moved out of Rose Hill once and for all in 1969, ending Fordham’s tradition of keeping live rams on campus.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:03 am
by peruna11
sorry, had to jump on the smart ace response...
But, I think you win buddy - Live Ram from 1925 - 1969. Can't find anything with a date of the killing, but it sounds like your debate operates under the assumption it took place.
http://www.fordham.edu/images/whats_new/magazine/fall08/theram.pdf Just as ancient Egypt had its great pharaohs, Fordham had its live rams. For the better part of five decades, the Rose Hill campus was host to more than 20 mascots—all named Ramses. The original, Ramses I, was reportedly borrowed from a New Jersey farm in 1925 by a group of Fordham students who thought a live animal would give the home team an extra boost. Not coincidentally, the live mascot’s heyday came during the golden age of Fordham football—from the mid-1920s to the early 1940s. Of all the celebrated rams of Rose Hill, perhaps Ramses VIII had the most exciting tenure as Fordham mascot.
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The last of the live mascots, Ramses XXI, moved out of Rose Hill once and for all in 1969, ending Fordham’s tradition of keeping live rams on campus.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:17 am
by JesuitPony
The Goat Man article is the better story, but thanks for digging up the information on the ram. Wish I could be there tomorrow, but the real estate market (thankfully) is picking back up and I have actual deals to close. Hope to see this crowd on the Boulevard later on this season.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:59 am
by SMUer
I don't have a bet riding on it but I have a friend who swears that the Peruna-killing-the-ram story is made up and stems from a humorous letter to the editor written by some members of the Mustang Band and published in the Daily Campus in 1999 or 2000 pumping up Peruna. Since then, the story has been accepted as fact virtually everywhere, even though the originators of the story have written letters and posted on websites that, in fact, they made it up.
Personally, I'm on team Peruna-actually-killed-the-ram because I feel like I've seen a photographed article mentioning it discussing the Fordham/SMU game. Perhaps your friend is on the other team.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:09 pm
by ponyte
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:14 pm
by Bergermeister
Navy Goat
Fordham Ram
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:02 pm
by EastStang
SMUer wrote:I don't have a bet riding on it but I have a friend who swears that the Peruna-killing-the-ram story is made up and stems from a humorous letter to the editor written by some members of the Mustang Band and published in the Daily Campus in 1999 or 2000 pumping up Peruna. Since then, the story has been accepted as fact virtually everywhere, even though the originators of the story have written letters and posted on websites that, in fact, they made it up.
Personally, I'm on team Peruna-actually-killed-the-ram because I feel like I've seen a photographed article mentioning it discussing the Fordham/SMU game. Perhaps your friend is on the other team.
Then they were quoting from another "made up" article in the mid 1970's because there was one in the Daily Campus around that time as well. That article detailed Peruna attempting to mount Misty, chasing the Baylor Bear, Kicking Bevo, running through the Rice Band (I saw that one), killing the Fordham Ram, dropping a steaming pile on TCU's new turf (I saw that one), and other various and sundry acts of mayhem of the BEST MASCOT IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, Peruna.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:00 am
by SBR Pony
Its absolutely true. It was the Fordham Ram fyi. Peruna VIII recently also killed a goat at his ranch.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:11 am
by SMUer
Guess Shetland Ponies and rams are mortal enemies...two proud noble races
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:22 am
by SBR Pony
Shetland Ponies are kind of notorious for being mean and stubborn and such. I'm surprised more mascots haven't been sent to an early grave by him.
Re: Peruna Question
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:16 pm
by Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex
EastStang wrote:SMUer wrote:I don't have a bet riding on it but I have a friend who swears that the Peruna-killing-the-ram story is made up and stems from a humorous letter to the editor written by some members of the Mustang Band and published in the Daily Campus in 1999 or 2000 pumping up Peruna. Since then, the story has been accepted as fact virtually everywhere, even though the originators of the story have written letters and posted on websites that, in fact, they made it up.
Personally, I'm on team Peruna-actually-killed-the-ram because I feel like I've seen a photographed article mentioning it discussing the Fordham/SMU game. Perhaps your friend is on the other team.
Then they were quoting from another "made up" article in the mid 1970's because there was one in the Daily Campus around that time as well. That article detailed Peruna attempting to mount Misty, chasing the Baylor Bear, Kicking Bevo, running through the Rice Band (I saw that one), killing the Fordham Ram, dropping a steaming pile on TCU's new turf (I saw that one), and other various and sundry acts of mayhem of the BEST MASCOT IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, Peruna.
There is one incident that took place in Austin in the early 80s when ut had a "birthday party" for Bevo at halftime. During the "party" they offered Peruna some hay. Story goes that Peruna walked up to the hay, took a sniff and then just walked away.