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We can carp about, and insult each other on this site as to how bad is, or is not : McD, Padron, the Defense, the offense, the R&S, JJ, JJ's time management and play calling, game preparation, QB quality and succession, WRs, Texas recruiting, yada, yada, yada. The question in my mind is what do the CoC feel about where is SMU currently, in its timetable back to football relevance. They control the purse strings, so what do they think.

Think they are rethinking their investment?

We will find out real quick when we hit the Big East.

SMU 86 wrote:We will find out real quick when we hit the Big East.

What does that mean?

Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

smustatesmen wrote:We can carp about, and insult each other on this site as to how bad is, or is not : McD, Padron, the Defense, the offense, the R&S, JJ, JJ's time management and play calling, game preparation, QB quality and succession, WRs, Texas recruiting, yada, yada, yada. The question in my mind is what do the CoC feel about where is SMU currently, in its timetable back to football relevance. They control the purse strings, so what do they think.

Probably something along the lines of "We're paying a QB guru 2 million a year, why have all our QBs sucked"?

sbsmith wrote:

smustatesmen wrote:We can carp about, and insult each other on this site as to how bad is, or is not : McD, Padron, the Defense, the offense, the R&S, JJ, JJ's time management and play calling, game preparation, QB quality and succession, WRs, Texas recruiting, yada, yada, yada. The question in my mind is what do the CoC feel about where is SMU currently, in its timetable back to football relevance. They control the purse strings, so what do they think.

Probably something along the lines of "We're paying a QB guru 2 million a year, why have all our QBs sucked"?

I thought Kyle did ok, and very well his freshmen year. Obviously JJ did great early on, but something happen from the UCF to So.Miss game. I mean it just seem like everyone knows how to beat us and theyre sharing the answers. This is where we need to have the element of surprise and bust out a backup game plan, that sad part is I dont know what, because we really need a balance QB who can effectively pass and run.

jkflamebo wrote:Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

I agree with you, a coach can only do so much, its all about execution. When the new QBs hit the street, and if Gilbert isnt living up to the hype playing here. Then there should be some cause to worry. This season when they put JJ in even though my peers thought I was crazy, I knew he wasnt NFL ready by any means. I felt his receivers bail him out on a continuous basis.

3 straight bowl games, not too bad. Time to get over the hump of winning games like this and @Tulsa/USM. Now, at 2014, we'll see

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

jkflamebo wrote:Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

I agree with you, a coach can only do so much, its all about execution. When the new QBs hit the street, and if Gilbert isnt living up to the hype playing here. Then there should be some cause to worry. This season when they put JJ in even though my peers thought I was crazy, I knew he wasnt NFL ready by any means. I felt his receivers bail him out on a continuous basis.

So we need to wait until year six of the june jones era for decent qb play?

abezontar wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

jkflamebo wrote:Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

I agree with you, a coach can only do so much, its all about execution. When the new QBs hit the street, and if Gilbert isnt living up to the hype playing here. Then there should be some cause to worry. This season when they put JJ in even though my peers thought I was crazy, I knew he wasnt NFL ready by any means. I felt his receivers bail him out on a continuous basis.

So we need to wait until year six of the june jones era for decent qb play?

I think if he takes us to a bowl with very average players consistently that warrants him a chance to use these new QBs, and I saw we got a good RB to replace Line. So I mean just give it 2013 (maybe '14, because its the BE).

jkflamebo wrote:Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

We've had three "legit" guys who all started out great and showed the same regression in year two of June's system. THAT'S a fact.

More talent, my *ss. Navy's bench was fired up from the first quarter on.

Was nice to see a team (Navy) fired up.

Everyone on the home sideline from June to the freshmen couldn't seem to care at all about what was going on. The entire team was sitting on the bench for the entire 4th quarter.

I'm ready for a coach who does more than sit there and stare at the field. Get someone who can light a fire under the lazy players who get down and stay down.

mr. pony wrote:

jkflamebo wrote:Need more time to bring in better players. The talent OVERALL is not where it needs to be get 8+ wins consistently. It starts with a QB and since June has been here, we haven't had a legit guy throwing passes. Just stating facts

We've had three "legit" guys who all started out great and showed the same regression in year two of June's system. THAT'S a fact.

More talent, my *ss. Navy's bench was fired up from the first quarter on.

This is the mystery. New Guy comes in looking like he will get us to next level, but six games in makes mis-reads, INTs, over-throws. Rinse, repeat.

To SBR Pony-quote="RockStang"]Kate at DMN 11/8:"Nothing's changed -- defensive coordinator Tom Mason's favorite week is still clearly not this one, when the Mustangs must implement a unique scheme to stop the Midshipmen's triple-option. Navy is averaging 318-yards rushing per game, third-best in the Football Bowl Subdivision.

"You spend the whole week doing something you haven't done all year," Mason said. "The kids have to understand this is gonna be physical, they're going to cut you all over the field and you have to be assignment-perfect."

My opinion-These buttholes have beat us 5 straight times-why don't the coaches man up and stop complaining about the "once all year" motivation killer? Ooh! we might get cut. Ooh they are badasses and physical. No wonder the players approach this game without enthusiasm. How about let's get p***d off Navy kicks our asses everytime we play them even though we have more talent? Just because they are a service academy let's lay down and enjoy getting raped? Stop all the congratulating them and focus on winning.

I remember us getting beat up by Tulane after we had housed them and gave them free use of our facilities after Katrina. They didnt show appreciation by giving us a game. Don't get me wrong-I am grateful for our servicemen (and women) but let's approach playing Navy and Army as if they are our enemy and we want to win-not honor their presence in our stadium.[/quote]