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Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:33 pm
by AusTxPony
I noticed on the CUSAbbs Board that we are 10.5 dogs to Baylor, down 7 to A&M and 11.5 down to TCU. Interesting, just a TD dog to A&M, would have thought more.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:48 pm
by SMU 86
With aTm having a new coach and implementing a new system we could catch them early in year the trying to get use to the new schemes.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:54 pm
by ponyinNC
I sure hope GG is as good as we all think he can be. I am really worried about QB depth and lack of a back-up qb with any game experience. I like Preston but he is untested. Kaiser likely never would have seen the field but it is still nice to have a 3rd string qb that has been in the system for a few years. Who's after Preston? Kirsch (sp?). Burcham (thought he tore his ACL?).
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:31 pm
by PSCA
It will be interesting to see where the lines are pre-kickoff. No doubt our Baylor performance (win, lose or draw) will influence the other two … and maybe even irrespective to how A&M and TCU look the first two games. I hope Baylor’s “D” is as porous as it was last season … GG and the “O” is hitting … maybe not all 8 cylinders … but hitting … and our “D” against a RGIII-less Baylor “O’ makes for a good game. I think this will be an interesting match-up. I said this before, I’m not going to predict a “W”, but I will not be shocked if we pull one off. A TCU like performance from our “D”, less the last 10min … this could be fun.
At this point it’s all speculation, but IMO, I think GG will be as advertised and will have grasped enough of the offense to be impactful from the start. I know some folks connected to UT football, and they told me GG was mishandled by UT (mind games and the like … agree this is their opinion). It would be nice to have exp depth … hey look at the brightside, the last 4 seasons we have basically had an inexperienced starter with an inexperienced backup … things are getting better. Our “D” keeps us in games this year …esp. Conference.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:06 pm
by AusTxPony
It's hard to call GG inexperienced and hard to believe he can't learn enough to have most of the playbook down in a month of practice, so I don't think that's as big a problem as many do. Plus he has played against Baylor already, so somewhat familiar with their personnel/schemes. The O-line is the bigger question in MHO.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:32 pm
by PSCA
It's hard to call GG inexperienced and hard to believe he can't learn enough to have most of the playbook down in a month of practice, so I don't think that's as big a problem as many do. Plus he has played against Baylor already, so somewhat familiar with their personnel/schemes. The O-line is the bigger question in MHO.
AusTxPony
I may have formulated my sentence incorrectly ... I was suggesting that GG does have exp. A step up from the last 4 years when both the starter and the back-ups were lacking in the that area. I agree, I think he will have enough of the playbook down .. add the mentoring he will get from T-Chang both on the field and the film room ... again, I think he will have a positve impact from the get-go
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:41 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
AusTxPony wrote:I noticed on the CUSAbbs Board that we are 10.5 dogs to Baylor, down 7 to A&M and 11.5 down to TCU. Interesting, just a TD dog to A&M, would have thought more.
Wow. Easy money. We cover all three easily and probably win two.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:24 pm
by RedRiverPony
That's interesting. Without having studied any opponents, I would assume that we would be closest in Vegas to Baylor, which lost nearly all of its 2011 offensive production with the departures of RGIII, Ganaway and Wright, followed by TCU and then most lopsided underdogs against Aggie High.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:10 am
by ponyte
Basically a 2 TD dog at home to TCU. NOt good for a team that beat TCU on the road last year.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:19 am
by Pony Up
True, except when you consider that team that team that won on the road lost all five starting offensive linemen, its starting quarterback, two starting receivers, a starting safety ... yes, we beat them (what a glorious day!) but have an army of new faces in the starting lineup.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:41 am
by BearAssets
PSCA wrote:It will be interesting to see where the lines are pre-kickoff. No doubt our Baylor performance (win, lose or draw) will influence the other two … and maybe even irrespective to how A&M and TCU look the first two games. I hope Baylor’s “D” is as porous as it was last season … GG and the “O” is hitting … maybe not all 8 cylinders … but hitting … and our “D” against a RGIII-less Baylor “O’ makes for a good game. I think this will be an interesting match-up. I said this before, I’m not going to predict a “W”, but I will not be shocked if we pull one off. A TCU like performance from our “D”, less the last 10min … this could be fun.
At this point it’s all speculation, but IMO, I think GG will be as advertised and will have grasped enough of the offense to be impactful from the start. I know some folks connected to UT football, and they told me GG was mishandled by UT (mind games and the like … agree this is their opinion). It would be nice to have exp depth … hey look at the brightside, the last 4 seasons we have basically had an inexperienced starter with an inexperienced backup … things are getting better. Our “D” keeps us in games this year …esp. Conference.
That Baylor O is returning a better OL than it had last year, three legit RBs, and a receiving corps that might be the best in the Big 12. Not to mention the starting QB is a 5th year Sr who set a school passing record his freshman year against Missouri and torched Tech in the second half last year. Basically what I am saying is no we don't have RG3 or KW or Ganaway, but the cupboard definitely isn't empty. So while the O won't be #2 in the nation like it was last year it will still be a top 10 in the nation offense
The D can only be better than it was last year and since we redshirted every freshman last year except the punter we will have a ton of young guys that most likely could have contributed or even started last year contributing this year and then throw in true freshman Javonte Magee on the DL and the D is already better than it was last year. Not to mention the starting CBs last year didn't come in until a week before the season started so they had no off season training like they are getting this year and one of them KJ Morton was still All Big 12. Safeties still might suck and I am not sure what we will get from the LBs but it has to be better than last year.
Should be a fun game, and I am just ready for that 1st Sunday in Sept to get here!
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:05 am
by PonyKai
Although it's year five and we ought to be way, way, way beyond "moral victories," especially considering where we want to go and what we've invested to accomplish that, I just want to see us come out, and act like we actually belong on the field with good play. 99% of the time I'm adamantly against this kind of failure mentality, but there have been numerous times where the program and fans get all jacked up and excited to make a statement against a quality team on a national stage, and we completely and utterly poop the bed.
Please, no more "all out" moments. No more having the starting QB miss the bus to travel to the game, and then come out and throw two awful interceptions in your first four passes. No more getting blasted so badly at home that all you can hear on the ESPN feed is "RAIDER...POWER" in our own effin stadium. No more Rashaun Woods and Michael Crabtree monstrous, epic performances. Please, just go out and act like you belong, score some points, and play well.
Or, in the alternative, walk in and score 17 straight points (ala TCU 2011) and then put your cleat on their throat and crush the life out of them for a cool, comfortable 4-5 TD win. Preferably this.
Re: Early Betting Lines
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:23 pm
by SMUer
"All Out" = Rock Bottom