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Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:58 am
by PonyKai
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2012/6/ ... e-big-east

"College football conference commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick have apparently come to a consensus on the best format for a new college football postseason. The new format will be a four team playoff where the participants are selected and seeded by a selection committee that will give weight to conference champions but will not be limited to them in picking teams. The games will most likely be played in the existing BCS bowl games in a predetermined rotation and the championship game will be bid out to cities like the Super Bowl currently is. This new format is as close to the current format as could be while expanding to four teams, which means it will have minimal impact on the Big East. Nevertheless, there are implications for the Big East going forward, here's a look at how this new postseason format will affect Big East football starting in 2014.

Most Years The Big East Won't Have A Team Selected, So Not Much Has Changed - The Big East in its post-ACC raid configuration came close, but never placed a team in the BCS Championship Game and in this new format, it won't in most years, either. There's nothing wrong with saying that. Every year at least one of the ACC, SEC, Big 12, Big Ten, and PAC 12 also won't place a team in the football playoff, either. Some years, two of those conferences won't have a team involved. It's even less likely that the Big East will get a team into the playoff than those conferences, but that's how it has always been, so nothing's changed.

An Undefeated Big East Champion Will Have A Good Chance Of Getting In - In 2009, undefeated Cincinnati finished #3 in the BCS standings and in any reasonable selection process would've been invited to the college football playoff. An undefeated TCU team finished #4 in the BCS that year. One loss Louisville finished #6 in the BCS standings in 2006 and most certainly would've been in the top 4 had it run the table that season (it probably would've played for the BCS championship had it gone 12-0). In the event that several other conference champions go undefeated and finished ranked ahead of the Big East's undefeated champion, the Big East champion likely would get passed over for the other conference champions, but I don't believe anyone could argue that depending on the conference's relative strength that year. Still, an undefeated Big East champ will often have a good chance at the #4 spot in the playoff and that might be the best we could ask for in the short term....."

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:34 am
by StallionsModelT
Good summary. There is an article on Orangebloods.com (Texas rivals site) is reporting that Notre Dame is moving all of its non-football sports to the Big 12 as early as this summer. This also would give them an open invitation to join the conference as a full member if/when the playoff system doesnt work to ND's advantage. The allure being of course the Big 12's third tier TV rights being exclusively the property of ND. However, it sounds like ND's place at the table is secure.

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:12 am
by PonyKai
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com ... -immi.html

"I thought maybe [Big 12 commissioner] Bob Bowlsby and I should hold hands up there," Swarbrick said. "I have no idea what prompted that. It is not based on any discussion, any meeting, anything we have done."

Swarbrick said the Irish would look at the resolution of the future college football postseason, which could be done by next week. Negotiations of a TV media rights deal, currently held by NBC, were described by Swarbrick as being in the "home stretch." And the uncertain membership in its current Big East home would be the final factor.

"Pieces of that are starting to fall into place and that will put us in a time and place where we probably take a look at it and decide what we're doing," Swarbrick said.

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:19 am
by SMUfrat
This ND stuff to the big12 is stupid, no offense. I don't see it happening - but again, I am no expert.

I think this playoff system will be good for the BigEast. I think the BE, although still rated #6 in football conferences, will be slightly more likely to get in. I agree with Alex that it wont change really anything that much... I just hope that the BE will be strong and demonstrate a higher level of football than others may expect.

I feel even more confident today that the BigEast was the right choice for SMU. Pony up!

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:20 am
by StallionsModelT
If the teams in the current Big East stay the course is as good if not better of a conference top to bottom than the ACC.

Top ACC Teams - FSU, VT, Miami, Clemson, GT
2nd Tier - UNC, NC State, Pitt, UVA, Boston College
Bottom Feeders - Duke, Wake Forest, Maryland, Syracuse

Top Big East Teams - Boise State, Cincinnati, Louisville, South Florida
2nd Tier - Houston, SMU, SDSU, Rutgers, UConn, UCF, Navy
Bottom Feeders - Memphis

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:45 am
by AusTxPony
Stallions, you might have included the Pac 12 in the group as well. Top Tier - USC, Oregon, Stanford. 2nd Tier - Washington, Cal, Utah, ASU, UCLA. Bottom Tier - Arizona, Oregon State, Wash. State, Colorado. However, they are certainly hiring some "good" head coaches that should improve the Conference overall.

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:27 am
by StallionsModelT
Yeah the PAC is extremely top heavy as well.

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:54 am
by EastStang
Every conference has a pecking order in football. Even the SEC.
Top tier: ALA, FL, LSU
Second tier: AU, UG, MSU, Ark., SC, TU
Bottom Rung: A&M, UK, VU, Ole Miss, Mizzou,
A&M might move up to the second tier someday.

Big XII
Top Rung: UT, OU
Second Tier: everyone else except KU, WVU who will man the bottom rung.

Re: Op-Ed: College Football's Playoff & the Big East

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:13 am
by GRGB
SMUfrat wrote:This ND stuff to the big12 is stupid, no offense. I don't see it happening - but again, I am no expert.

I think this playoff system will be good for the BigEast. I think the BE, although still rated #6 in football conferences, will be slightly more likely to get in. I agree with Alex that it wont change really anything that much... I just hope that the BE will be strong and demonstrate a higher level of football than others may expect.

I feel even more confident today that the BigEast was the right choice for SMU. Pony up!


Why move women's crew and track to a conference 1000 miles away for no apparent benefit in revenue?