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Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:01 pm
by Arkpony
And the announcers actually acknowledged they had been maligning the BE, then gave the BE some credit. Wonder of wonders!

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:18 pm
by leopold
Feel sorry for Smith. Arky is in full meltdown.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:59 pm
by ponyte
At the game. Arkyland hit big plays over the middle. RU finally got a clue and stopped that in the 4th quarter. That shut down Arkyland. UA's D is weak. Kicking game was stellar for UA. RU was we coached and played very hard

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:05 pm
by Dwan
I feel bad for John L Smith.....he was a lame duck coach put in an impossible situation and is also 27 million in debt and his brother passed away recently. I'm really pulling for him.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:07 pm
by The PonyGrad
I picked them to win.
(patting self on shoulder now)
:wink:

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:12 am
by Paladin
Dwan wrote:I feel bad for John L Smith.....he was a lame duck coach put in an impossible situation and is also 27 million in debt and his brother passed away recently. I'm really pulling for him.

..just curious, and completely none of my business, but how does a football coach get 27 million in debt ?

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:24 am
by RGV Pony
Leverage a [deleted] o real estate at the wrong time

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:26 am
by mustangxc
Maybe it is bad karma for leaving his alma mater in a difficult position.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:57 am
by Big Hoss
I feel bad for him about his brother passing away. That sucks any time it would happen, and even worse that it's happening now given his other troubles.

The lame duck coach piece, well, you know, he could have said no. He knew it would be tough. He's been around the block. If he didn't want the pressure, then he shouldn't have signed up for it.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who can get themselves in $27million in debt. If you make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and got that far into trouble, you just got greedy. As they say "thems the breaks".

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:15 pm
by mrydel
He would not have said no because he picked up the phone and called Jeff Long offering his services. His remark was that he planned on retiring in a year and could retire better on what UA was paying than what Weber State was paying.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:38 pm
by CA Mustang
mrydel wrote:He would not have said no because he picked up the phone and called Jeff Long offering his services. His remark was that he planned on retiring in a year and could retire better on what UA was paying than what Weber State was paying.
Then why did he take the Weber State job if he planned on only coaching one year? Was Weber State okay with that?

Since he is in bankruptcy, it would probably be more accurate to say he is retiring from coaching but that he'll still be working.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:48 pm
by mrydel
CA Mustang wrote:
mrydel wrote:He would not have said no because he picked up the phone and called Jeff Long offering his services. His remark was that he planned on retiring in a year and could retire better on what UA was paying than what Weber State was paying.
Then why did he take the Weber State job if he planned on only coaching one year? Was Weber State okay with that?

Since he is in bankruptcy, it would probably be more accurate to say he is retiring from coaching but that he'll still be working.
He said that his intent was to coach at Weber State for one year to get their program in good shape and then step aside for a new coach and retire. When the Arkansas situation arose he called Long and said he would keep the coaching staff intact, which is what everyone wanted a that time and then step aside after the year and retire. And he openly said that he wanted Arkansas because the pay would be better for the year. He is a very odd bird.

As an aside, I think the Arkansas fans would be ok if the current staff was not kept in place any longer.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:54 pm
by PonyFan
Big Hoss wrote:I feel bad for him about his brother passing away. That sucks any time it would happen, and even worse that it's happening now given his other troubles.

The lame duck coach piece, well, you know, he could have said no. He knew it would be tough. He's been around the block. If he didn't want the pressure, then he shouldn't have signed up for it.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who can get themselves in $27million in debt. If you make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and got that far into trouble, you just got greedy. As they say "thems the breaks".
Perfectly said, Big Hoss. I agree with everything here.

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:07 pm
by CA Mustang
mrydel wrote:He said that his intent was to coach at Weber State for one year to get their program in good shape and then step aside for a new coach and retire.
I just wonder if that was Weber State's understanding as well.
mrydel wrote:And he openly said that he wanted Arkansas because the pay would be better for the year.
You don't normally hear a thirst for cash expressed by a coach in such raw terms. Oh, wait...
mrydel wrote:As an aside, I think the Arkansas fans would be ok if the current staff was not kept in place any longer.
Understood!

Re: Rutgers knocks off Arkansas!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:52 pm
by LakeHighlandsPony
Who does our Arkansas contingent think will be the next coach at U of Arkansas?

Any chance it will be Patterson or Briles?