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ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:42 pm
by GiddyUp

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:43 pm
by SMU2007
When people praise the Big East for "getting access" to the playoff system - why are they not praising the MAC, CUSA, MWC, Sun Belt etc.?

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:03 pm
by Water Pony
The New BE and its member schools have not had the quality wins to be included among the top five conferences.

But the top ranked BE team will almost certainly be guaranteed a place at the table for the top six bowl games.

This is a win for BE, its current/new members and our commissioner. Given our 25 year journey, we should be thrilled. Now, let's take advantage of this gift.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:53 am
by TWALV33
"Got the Big East on the open market for TV negotiations."


Did ESPN just say something from a neutral stance?!!

I was unaware they could actually remove bias from their reporting!

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:09 am
by mustangxc
SMU2007 wrote:When people praise the Big East for "getting access" to the playoff system - why are they not praising the MAC, CUSA, MWC, Sun Belt etc.?
Based on historical evidence, they basically gave the Big East an automatic bid with the caveat that if it doesn't have a very good team in any given season the bid will go to another more deserving team from the remaining 4 conferences that season. This deal protects the bowls from a 2004 Pitt or 2010 UCONN team in the Fiesta Bowl and it protects the Big East from ridicule for sending such teams to BCS bowls.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:22 pm
by SMU2007
mustangxc wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:When people praise the Big East for "getting access" to the playoff system - why are they not praising the MAC, CUSA, MWC, Sun Belt etc.?
Based on historical evidence, they basically gave the Big East an automatic bid with the caveat that if it doesn't have a very good team in any given season the bid will go to another more deserving team from the remaining 4 conferences that season. This deal protects the bowls from a 2004 Pitt or 2010 UCONN team in the Fiesta Bowl and it protects the Big East from ridicule for sending such teams to BCS bowls.
Historical evidence but that's with a completely different set of teams in the Big East. I also think the bcs really regretted having that tie in in the last few years since they've lost a few of the teams that gave them their original clout. Don't get me wrong, the conference is still better than the others, but I just hope we aren't on a more level playing field with those other conferences now that everything's changed around.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:31 pm
by mustangxc
SMU2007 wrote:
mustangxc wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:When people praise the Big East for "getting access" to the playoff system - why are they not praising the MAC, CUSA, MWC, Sun Belt etc.?
Based on historical evidence, they basically gave the Big East an automatic bid with the caveat that if it doesn't have a very good team in any given season the bid will go to another more deserving team from the remaining 4 conferences that season. This deal protects the bowls from a 2004 Pitt or 2010 UCONN team in the Fiesta Bowl and it protects the Big East from ridicule for sending such teams to BCS bowls.
Historical evidence but that's with a completely different set of teams in the Big East. I also think the bcs really regretted having that tie in in the last few years since they've lost a few of the teams that gave them their original clout. Don't get me wrong, the conference is still better than the others, but I just hope we aren't on a more level playing field with those other conferences now that everything's changed around.
No, the historical evidence is based on the teams that will be in the Big East next year.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:22 am
by Rebel10
The big thing that Aresco did not do is keep the BCS share of the money split the the other 5 conferences will get. He failed horribly in that.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:48 am
by Rebel10
mustangxc wrote:
No, the historical evidence is based on the teams that will be in the Big East next year.
Mustangxc, not saying you are wrong but please cite your historical evidence.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:46 pm
by mustangxc
Rebel10 wrote:
mustangxc wrote:
No, the historical evidence is based on the teams that will be in the Big East next year.
Mustangxc, not saying you are wrong but please cite your historical evidence.
Under the new arrangement, current or future Big East schools would have appeared in an elite-level bowl game in eight of the past nine years (2007 Hawaii is the outlier), and Aresco is confident things will only get better from the competition side of things.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/ ... o-big-east

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:59 pm
by PonySnob
The NBE teams are going to have to do a great job in their non-conference games of beating teams from power conferences to get any kind of national respect.

Re: ESPN: Aresco steadies Big East ship

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:24 pm
by Rebel10
mustangxc wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:
mustangxc wrote:
No, the historical evidence is based on the teams that will be in the Big East next year.
Mustangxc, not saying you are wrong but please cite your historical evidence.
Under the new arrangement, current or future Big East schools would have appeared in an elite-level bowl game in eight of the past nine years (2007 Hawaii is the outlier), and Aresco is confident things will only get better from the competition side of things.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/ ... o-big-east
That is not a comparative statement. I guess the previous schools could have gone 9 out of 9 years.