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Question on ACC

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:57 pm
by SMUfrat
Would the ACC go and sign a GoR with ESPN?

Does ACC add UC and Uconn? I saw a tweet from EJ saying UConn and UC are next to leave... I mean, I agree... but where and when?

Do y'all thing the SEC and the BIG wont take this opportunity to add schools?

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:44 pm
by TWALV33
I think we will be reading about more shifts tomorrow, but thats just my guess...

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:51 pm
by Charleston Pony
SMUfrat wrote:Would the ACC go and sign a GoR with ESPN?

Does ACC add UC and Uconn? I saw a tweet from EJ saying UConn and UC are next to leave... I mean, I agree... but where and when?

Do y'all thing the SEC and the BIG wont take this opportunity to add schools?
Big 10 has gone to 14 so question is "when will we see the name of the conference change?" Do they go to Big 14??

I think the SEC is content at 14 and will only add if there is value added to conference. What school/state does that?

ACC might be happy to stay with 14 and they have basically become the new Big East (football) and ACC merged. They have the east coast markets, great bball tradition and don't forget the association deal with Notre Dame.

We need to hope the Big East holds together so we can benefit from their basketball tradition and MSG. Football is basically CUSA 3.0

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:47 pm
by Digetydog
SMUfrat wrote:Would the ACC go and sign a GoR with ESPN?

Does ACC add UC and Uconn? I saw a tweet from EJ saying UConn and UC are next to leave... I mean, I agree... but where and when?

Do y'all thing the SEC and the BIG wont take this opportunity to add schools?
What is a GOR?

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:03 pm
by sbsmith
SMUfrat wrote:Would the ACC go and sign a GoR with ESPN?

Does ACC add UC and Uconn? I saw a tweet from EJ saying UConn and UC are next to leave... I mean, I agree... but where and when?

Do y'all thing the SEC and the BIG wont take this opportunity to add schools?
No one in the ACC is signing a GOR that would chain them to the conference (and that backloaded ESPN deal). The ACC isn't adding UC and UConn unless they lose more members (to the Big 12, Big 10 and SEC).

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:30 am
by Dukie
GOR = Grant of Rights, as in what the Big XII-IV+2 did with 12 years' worth of TV rights.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:32 am
by Comet
No way the ACC could get away with a successful GOR, not with so many teams rumored to be looking to get out.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:03 pm
by redpony
I'm actually surprised that they were able to enact the 50 mil. exit fee.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:42 pm
by SMUfrat
redpony wrote:I'm actually surprised that they were able to enact the 50 mil. exit fee.
Things always seem to be negotiable. I hope the ACC gets raided. If so, we are in a better position.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:57 pm
by Stallion
Maryland does have one interesting point to litigate. Neither Florida St or Maryland signed the Grant of Rights. The Grant of Right passed by supermajority vote. In this case a good argument might be made that the liquidated damages amount is unreasonable and a penalty because they slapped that puppy down in short order without giving Maryland or Florida St a reasonable opportunity to find a new conference. If you lived in a neighboor that slapped a Homeowners Million Dollar fine for a restriction effective immediately would you be forced to pay the Million Dollars if you sold your house 3 months after the effective date. Then I'd expect Maryland to introduce evidence that they have been seeking another conference since the imposition of the Penalty.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:00 pm
by sbsmith
SMUfrat wrote:
redpony wrote:I'm actually surprised that they were able to enact the 50 mil. exit fee.
Things always seem to be negotiable. I hope the ACC gets raided. If so, we are in a better position.

The ACC will end up looking like the BE we thought we'd be apart of.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 pm
by CalallenStang
Stallion wrote:Maryland does have one interesting point to litigate. Neither Florida St or Maryland signed the Grant of Rights. The Grant of Right passed by supermajority vote. In this case a good argument might be made that the liquidated damages amount is unreasonable and a penalty because they slapped that puppy down in short order without giving Maryland or Florida St a reasonable opportunity to find a new conference. If you lived in a neighboor that slapped a Homeowners Million Dollar fine for a restriction effective immediately would you be forced to pay the Million Dollars if you sold your house 3 months after the effective date. Then I'd expect Maryland to introduce evidence that they have been seeking another conference since the imposition of the Penalty.
It isn't a grant of rights, it was a raised exit fee. ACC, not Big 12

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:08 pm
by 1983 Cotton Bowl
The ACC has to take a super hard-line on the exit fee. If they lose this question or settle for something significantly less, the ACC is toast. They may be toast anyway, but this would probably accelerate the exodus.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:39 pm
by redpony
IMO the ACC was one step ahead of the BE regarding this issue. They filed a suit first against MD hence they won't be fighting in MD courts where they can't possibly win. Whereas WVA filed suit against the BE first and filed it in couch burner country so there was no possible way the BE had a chance at a fair hearing.

Re: Question on ACC

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:19 pm
by EastStang
The ACC has to take a hard line on this and go for the $50 Million and not settle. Otherwise, there is at least one other program in the same boat, FSU, that would make the same argument as UMD. If FSU goes, then the the leak becomes a flood and teams are racing for the door. Right now I suspect that FSU is taking a wait and see approach. If the ACC wins, then it gets about $5 Million. If the ACC loses, it can walk without penalty.