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Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:34 pm
by gostangs
Louisville - u.s. news ranking number 168. Can we stop pretending academics has anything to do with any of this please? It's a joke.
Come to think of it - not sure what Louisville adds - number 48 media market, not that great a record in football over last five years. Basketball, yes...but the acc didn't need more basketball in small market.
I think we are just throwing crap on the wall, and the media consultants are trying to get to 4x 16 as fast as possible.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:37 pm
by East Coast Mustang
More than anything, I think Louisville over UConn was a move to appease the FB schools (FSU, Clemson, etC)
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:41 pm
by sbsmith
Some conferences care more than others
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:43 pm
by CalallenStang
East Coast Mustang wrote:More than anything, I think Louisville over UConn was a move to appease the FB schools (FSU, Clemson, etC)
To get into the ACC, one had to have 2 or fewer votes against.
UConn was being blocked by Boston College. Other no votes were the football schools (FSU, Clemson), and two others - not sure who exactly, but I heard there were 5 against.
Louisville originally was opposed by UNC, Virginia, and Wake Forest. However, Wake became concerned that not adding someone would result in further ACC destabilization, which threatens Wake Forest as they likely will not receive a bid from another conference. Thus, they switched their vote late yesterday, and that is when you saw the conference schedule a 7 AM conference call to officially vote.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:47 pm
by SoCal_Pony
sbsmith wrote:Some conferences care more than others
ACC being one of them, yet they admitted Louisville, so gostangs point has merit.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:55 pm
by sbsmith
SoCal_Pony wrote:sbsmith wrote:Some conferences care more than others
ACC being one of them, yet they admitted Louisville, so gostangs point has merit.
Seems like the ACC is desperate (it's about to be hunted and killed by three very hungry predators) so they're tossing standards out the window.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:00 pm
by Pony ^
As I've said before many times, who cares about academics..give me wins.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:42 am
by SMU2007
gostangs wrote:Louisville - u.s. news ranking number 168. Can we stop pretending academics has anything to do with any of this please? It's a joke.
fully agree. these are athletic conferences.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:04 am
by Comet
I still think the B1G cares.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:54 pm
by Charleston Pony
Comet wrote:I still think the B1G cares.
they want their members to be members of the AAU; Rutgers and Maryland are both members
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:00 pm
by East Coast Mustang
Didn't Nebraska ironically disaffiliate from the AAU shortly after joining the Big Ten?
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:01 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
East Coast Mustang wrote:Didn't Nebraska ironically disaffiliate from the AAU shortly after joining the Big Ten?
Yes. The B1G should kick them out!

Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:02 pm
by gostangs
which is weird, since AAU is not necessarily a standard of academic excellence - just a research dollar designation. the whole academic thing is a farce. The driver is money only
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:43 am
by Pony^
East Coast Mustang wrote:Didn't Nebraska ironically disaffiliate from the AAU shortly after joining the Big Ten?
That is putting it very nicely -- Nebraska was kicked out of the AAU.
Re: Academic rank as partof re-alignment
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:02 am
by leopold
My father recently spoke with a man who was the head of the Notre Dame alumni club for a number of years and my dad tells me that one of the reasons Notre Dame left the Big East (among many) was the idea that they didn't want to associate academically with many of the schools coming into the 'new' Big East. Of course, he could have been just being polite to the relative of an SMU grad, but he told my father that SMU was about the only school Notre Dame wanted to associate with academically.
Don't kid yourselves - Tulane would have been brought in for similiar reasons by small private basketball oriented schools who care nothing for football - there are other schools who have shown more of a willingness to compete in athletics than Tulane and would have jumped at the chance to move to the Big East.