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Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:02 pm
by PonyKai
No CFB HOF; just your scheduled, annual update.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:21 pm
by Sasser Rules
That is absolutely disgraceful.

Who got in this year?

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:42 pm
by Pony147
Here's the list:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... fame-class

ESPN is about to talk about Dickerson's snub

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:35 pm
by soccermom
I know I'm biased but didn't see one player on that list that came close to Dickerson......hogwash, I tell you!

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:08 am
by West Coast Johnny
College football HOF - just plain stupid. Ron Dayne gets in and Dickerson doesn't? Bwahahahah!

Tomlinson snubbed too. Frogs pissed.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:19 am
by LHS81
Dickerson should have been in the college HOF a long time ago. {Gary Fatterson} the idiot voters.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:31 am
by ponyte
The last SMU player inducted was Jerry LeVias. Overall, all SMU inductees are on offense or a coach. We have one player that played at two schools (SMU, Tulsa).

Louie Kelcher is not a member. Neither is Emmanuel Tolbert, John Simmons, or Russell Carter.

Seems this organization thinks nothing of SMU players after the 60s.\

And Jerry Lagrone was not only consensus all American but also academic all American. And of course not in the HOF.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:35 am
by LHS81
You could also throw DL and Olympic gold medalist, Micheal Carter, in the conversation. You could also make a case for DB, Wes Hopkins. But, like you said. The voters think nothing of SMU players.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:41 am
by ponyte
LHS81 wrote:You could also throw DL and Olympic gold medalist, Micheal Carter, in the conversation. You could also make a case for DB, Wes Hopkins. But, like you said. The voters think nothing of SMU players.


One of the criteria for inclusion in the HOF is consensus all-American. Hopkins and Carter don't qualify as consensus AA. That is one reason I didn't mention them.

I do agree that they were great players and should receive the appropriate recognition. It’s just this organization has certain criteria that limits and defines what all-Americans can be considered.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:32 am
by SMU 86
The HOF committee seems to be still holding the pay for play scandal against him and possibly others that competed at that time.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 pm
by ReedFrawg
soccermom wrote:I know I'm biased but didn't see one player on that list that came close to Dickerson......hogwash, I tell you!


Ron Dayne numbers are insane and he won the heisman. Tough to argue against him.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:19 pm
by Stallion
John Simmons not Hopkins was the consensus All-American-he had one of the greatest years ever for a CB with about 9-10 Ints and about 3 Ints returned for TD all in 1 year. I thought Russell Carter also was a consensus All-American too-it say so on Wikipedia so it must be true. Carter and Simmons had 18 and 17 career interceptions respectively-pretty good during a running era

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:32 pm
by PonyKai
Tomlinson & Dickerson being passed over is like the Rock Hall of Fame keeping out Rush and KISS for decades and then let the crap in that they have. There's literally no valid argument against it. Try and you'll be laughed out of the room. Shameful and embarrassing.

In regards to Tolbert, isn't he like in prison for sexual assault or something reeealy bad?

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:48 pm
by PonyKai
Pete Fiutak on top snubs:

3. Derrick Thomas, LB Alabama (1985-1988)

Normally it works the other way. Too often a mediocre college player gets retroactive credit for a great career after becoming a dominant pro – Johnny Unitas is front and center on that list. In the case of Derrick Thomas, not only was he a Hall of Fame pro player, but he was among the greatest pass rushers college football has ever seen. The 1988 Butkus Award winner was the defense star on four straight bowl teams destroying everything in his path, setting the NCAA single-season record with 27 sacks while finishing his career with a whopping 74 tackles for loss.

2. Eric Dickerson, RB SMU (1979-1982)

Okay, so there was that whole SMU Death Penalty thing, and there was the slimy, slick recruiting issue that got him to the school in the first place - which he won’t talk about in any way - but on the field he was as electrifying and as special as any back to ever carry the ball. Despite splitting carries with Craig James in the Pony Express, he still broke Earl Campbell’s record for career rushing yards by a Southwest Conference runner with 4,450, to go along with 48 touchdowns while averaging a whopping 5.6 yards per carry. A unanimous First Team All-American in 1982, he finished third in the Heisman voting while closing out his career with a second SWC Player of the Year honor.

1. Brian Bosworth, LB Oklahoma (1984-1986)

Bosworth is an interesting case because of his admitted steroid use, but if he’s left out because of that, then the history of the era has to be rewritten – and that might not be a bad thing. On the field, The Boz was brash, arrogant, annoying and a total and complete bust as a professional football player. He taunted opponents, fans, and the NCAA with his headbands, hairstyles and colorful comments.

And along the way he might have been the greatest inside linebacker of all-time.

Behind all the gimmicks and all the self-promotion was a peerless tackler making 395 tackles in three years including a school record 22 in the 1986 classic loss to Miami. The model of consistency he made 128 tackles in 1984, 131 in 1985, and 136 in 1986 earning consensus All-America honors in 1985 and 1986 and becoming the first ever two-time Butkus Award Winner.

Re: Dickerson Screwed Again

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:54 pm
by LHS81
@stlouishockeyguy. . . Found this on Wiki

Tolbert was tried for and convicted of rape and violating a minor in 2001. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison for the rape plus four years for the violation, to be served concurrently.[1]