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Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:57 am
by PonyBoy32
Seems like there has been a lot of talk about scooping up an assistant coach or a coordinator from one of these schools. Why not take a look at a head coach from one of the mid major schools? I really like Coach Rod Carey at Northern Illinois as he's been able to take Northern Illinois to places I'd never imagine possible for a MAC team.
http://coachingtreehotseat.com/coaching-at/available/Would we be able to land one of these guys?
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:02 am
by GreenbeltPony
PonyBoy32 wrote:Seems like there has been a lot of talk about scooping up an assistant coach or a coordinator from one of these schools. Why not take a look at a head coach from one of the mid major schools? I really like Coach Rod Carey at Northern Illinois as he's been able to take Northern Illinois to places I'd never imagine possible for a MAC team.
http://coachingtreehotseat.com/coaching-at/available/Would we be able to land one of these guys?
I think we're going to be stuck in mediocrity if we don't start makings inroads into DFW + Texas recruiting, which is backed up by what local HS coaches have been saying. Carey's a good coach, but it looks like he has 0 TX ties.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:52 am
by floridianstang
No.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:20 pm
by PonyBoy32
floridianstang wrote:No.
No we wouldn't be able to land one of these guys or no we don't want these guys?
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:26 pm
by JasonB
Not a big enough name. The head coach doesn't need texas ties as long as the assistants do - see LB.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:25 pm
by floridianstang
PonyBoy32 wrote:floridianstang wrote:No.
No we wouldn't be able to land one of these guys or no we don't want these guys?
No, we don't want these guys. I prefer we go for a young OC that runs a high octane offense and hire him a solid OC and DC along with talented and young staff. We need to go the swag route and sell the vision rather than a coaches "experience". We already saw how that turned out.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:15 pm
by PonyBoy32
floridianstang wrote:PonyBoy32 wrote:floridianstang wrote:No.
No we wouldn't be able to land one of these guys or no we don't want these guys?
We need to go the swag route and sell the vision rather than a coaches "experience"
If only we had a shoe brand rep that graduated from SMU...
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:38 pm
by RGV Pony
We do. Toms doesn't do football though
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:55 pm
by locostang
For sure go the innovative OC route a la Oregon's last 2 HC hires. Sumlin and Malzhan are other examples. Those are the hot programs. Innovative younger offensive coaches with swagger. That is who good recruits want to play for. And as a fan I like watching innovative offenses that can score. It is truly just more entertaining. June's offense was really slow and boring and painful to watch...not what we all were expecting. Running scheme was so vanilla and dreadful most years. And remember when Padron walked to the sideline for every play? That produced 4+ hour games.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:28 am
by sbsmith
PonyBoy32 wrote:Seems like there has been a lot of talk about scooping up an assistant coach or a coordinator from one of these schools. Why not take a look at a head coach from one of the mid major schools? I really like Coach Rod Carey at Northern Illinois as he's been able to take Northern Illinois to places I'd never imagine possible for a MAC team.
http://coachingtreehotseat.com/coaching-at/available/Would we be able to land one of these guys?
Yes but why would you want them? I thought we learned our lesson from the June Jones ordeal that fit for the job is more important than HC experience. What makes you think that a career Midwesterner is a fit for the SMU job?
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:35 am
by ender3
floridianstang wrote:We already saw how that turned out.
Yep. Four bowl games in seven years (we're not making a bowl this year, in case anyone hadn't noticed).
We can do better but that was huge progress.
We went from average recruiter/below average coach - Bennett
to pitiful recruiter/pretty good coach - Jones
Now I want a hot shot (Texas) recruiter who can also coach, and to do that, I think we're almost definitely looking at a coordinator.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:10 am
by floridianstang
ender3 wrote:floridianstang wrote:We already saw how that turned out.
Yep. Four bowl games in seven years (we're not making a bowl this year, in case anyone hadn't noticed).
We can do better but that was huge progress.
We went from average recruiter/below average coach - Bennett
to pitiful recruiter/pretty good coach - Jones
Now I want a hot shot (Texas) recruiter who can also coach, and to do that, I think we're almost definitely looking at a coordinator.
Yes we did improve exponentially. Therefore we need a coach that can sell the future SMU championship-level program like Briles did in Baylor and Larry is doing for basketball. You don't hear LB whining about P5-G5 horsecrap.
Re: Current Coaches for the Job?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:17 am
by SMU1523
floridianstang wrote:PonyBoy32 wrote:floridianstang wrote:No.
No we wouldn't be able to land one of these guys or no we don't want these guys?
No, we don't want these guys. I prefer we go for a young OC that runs a high octane offense and hire him a solid OC and DC along with talented and young staff. We need to go the swag route and sell the vision rather than a coaches "experience". We already saw how that turned out.
+1