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May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:03 am
by Rebel10
Coach Dykes has the best recruiting class in G5 coming in at this point. And with the 27 million dollar facility that with help recruiting and practice. Not saying he will do like Willie Taggert did at USF and 4 Stuart top G5 recruiting classes but who knows, he might. Not saying he won’t need to make staff adjustments along the way. I like Coach Lashlee and hope he can get the offense going better than it is. But it took Coach Taggert about 3 years to get rolling but when he did USF was a force in the AAC. I think Coach Dykes can do the same thing the way he is recruiting.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:54 am
by Insane_Pony_Posse
Rebel10 wrote:May have to give this some time
yes...just a year or 2 or 3 away
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:56 am
by Charleston Pony
we've been waiting 30 years now
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:57 am
by Rebel10
Fans were about to run Coach Taggert out of town in his first 2 years but those high level recruits started to kick in in his 3rd year and the rest was history. Again, not saying this will definitely happen but it could.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:07 am
by JasonB
Do you think it is a problem with needing new players for a new scheme? Or were the CM classes overrated?
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:19 am
by Charleston Pony
It's not like Morris was bringing in the top class in the AAC every year he was here, so I wouldn't say his recruits were "overrated" but yes...Sonny and his staff need to recruit over most positions and bring in bigger, stronger, faster guys for this program to compete against Top 25 and above average football teams. It's amazing how much easier it is to "execute" your schemes when you have bigger, stronger and faster guys than your opponent.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:34 am
by Rebel10
At this point I do think Coach Morris was a little more creative in his play calling than Coach Lashlee regarding the offense. Both run Malzahn’s offense just different play calling. With that being said Coach Morris did not have bad recruiting classes but Coach Dykes seems to be doing better. No knock on Coach Morris there. As far as defense goes does Coach Kane run a 3-4 or a 3–3-5?
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:39 am
by Vitale
Charleston Pony wrote:It's not like Morris was bringing in the top class in the AAC every year he was here, so I wouldn't say his recruits were "overrated" but yes...Sonny and his staff need to recruit over most positions and bring in bigger, stronger, faster guys for this program to compete against Top 25 and above average football teams. It's amazing how much easier it is to "execute" your schemes when you have bigger, stronger and faster guys than your opponent.
It would be interesting to see how the o-line and receivers, etc., could gel if SMU started with Cupcake U, rather than NTSU (so weird to call that a good team but it is), TCU, Michigan, etc.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:40 am
by Stallion
They ain't ours until they sign. Morris had classes in the 50s too at this time of year. They were No. 56 on Scout the day he left and No. 49 on Rivals. Almost without fail the Top G5 recruiting classes get raided late in the recruiting season. We'll find out on the early signing date whether they are still committed or looking around for the Bigger Better Deal. Which game do you want them to attend to "feel the color and pageantry" around SMU football?
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:47 am
by Rebel10
I agree Stallion. Again, no knock on Coach Morrris’ recruiting classes or players he got to transfer to SMU.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:03 pm
by Monty_The_Mustang
Stallion wrote:They ain't ours until they sign. Morris had classes in the 50s too at this time of year. They were No. 56 on Scout the day he left and No. 49 on Rivals. Almost without fail the Top G5 recruiting classes get raided late in the recruiting season. We'll find out on the early signing date whether they are still committed or looking around for the Bigger Better Deal. Which game do you want them to attend to "feel the color and pageantry" around SMU football?
I agree, it will hard to hold onto these multiple offer guys if they come to a game with 5k fans.
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:28 pm
by Charleston Pony
We will find out whether Sonny and his staff can sell the potential of SMU. We can talk about his promotion all day long but I really think Chad was anxious to bail because he was not convinced he could sell SMU beyond what he had been able to (meaning middle of the pack AAC level recruits).
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:31 pm
by Stallion
Morris was selling recruits off 1 win (1 month to recruit), 2 wins and 4 wins. Sonny was selling recruits off a 7 win bowl team. Big difference
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:52 pm
by SMUer
Whether we actually participated in that bowl is debatable though
Re: May have to give this some time
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:15 pm
by Rebel10
Stallion wrote:Morris was selling recruits off 1 win (1 month to recruit), 2 wins and 4 wins. Sonny was selling recruits off a 7 win bowl team. Big difference
Good point.