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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby PonyTime » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:03 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:Wiseman gets 12 game suspension but Memphis will appeal:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... unishment/


I don't understand this penalty. How is the family supposed to pay 12k if they did not have 12k to move in the first place? They are going to have to do something shady (per NCAA) just to get the 12k.

And how is the penalty for a booster giving 12k to a recruit's family simply "sit for 12 games and give a 12k donation to a charity".
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby Topper » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:10 pm

PoconoPony wrote:
mrydel wrote:I am not employed by SMU but am considered a booster due to attending. Sherwood was not employed by SMU.


My understanding is merely being a school contributor or booster meets the standard. You do not need to be an alum although that is prime facie evidence.


You are correct.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby Topper » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:13 pm

ponyboy wrote:Unless you’re a blue blood. Then you can do anything you want. The big boys have been on this Memphis resurgence from the beginning. They don’t like being outrecruited.


See UNC.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby Terry Webster » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:15 pm

Wonder if anything is going to happen to the coach or is he off scot free?
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby SMU Section F » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:17 pm

Terry Webster wrote:Wonder if anything is going to happen to the coach or is he off scot free?

I think in regards to this the "he wasn't coach at the time" defense will actually work. Wiseman's violation is exclusively in regards to Penny being a booster - not a coach - and boosters aren't generally within NCAA's scope of punishment.

I'm selfishly kind of disappointed Memphis didn't try going scorched earth on the NCAA, but this is almost definitely the better result for Memphis and the AAC.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:17 pm

Looks like the Wiseman family might have to take a loan from Penny to pay this fine!
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby White Helmet » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:02 pm

And now Wiseman is leaving Memphis to focus on the draft.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28335497/james-wiseman-leaves-memphis-enter-nba-draft

Final count:
3 games
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby PonyTime » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 pm

White Helmet wrote:And now Wiseman is leaving Memphis to focus on the draft.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28335497/james-wiseman-leaves-memphis-enter-nba-draft

Final count:
3 games


Three more games than Mudiay. (to be clear, the Mudiay that was drafted into the NBA - not the other one, who probably did play 3 games for us)
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby PonyLaw90 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:39 pm

Grand opening, Grand closing.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby sadderbudweiser » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:01 pm

LOL... he got three more college starts than Mudiay.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby PonyLaw90 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:10 am

And now comes the pain . . ..

When Memphis challenged the eligibility of their BigMan, they probably counted on potentially the pluses to having him for the remainder of the season. That included, a possible national championship and an immediate return to relevancy.

Now that he is gone, Memphis must still deal with what will be considered a major infraction by then booster, Penny Hardaway. I could see Memphis getting multi-year sanctions similar to SMU's for its defiance.

Like Keith Frazier, only time will tell if he was worth the risk/headache/pain.
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Re: And down goes Memphis

Postby 82Pony » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:01 pm

Doubt it. NCAA new everything from the beginning, declaring him eligible and then (for an unknown reason) re-evaluating and declaring him ineligible. There was never any attempt to hide the facts.
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